Valentinianism = Monism?

[DanielR]

Hello all,

where have all the gnostics gone? it's been so quiet for the past couple of weeks maybe even months

Anyway, I wanted to know what you guys think, would you say Valentianism is monistic? According to gnosis.org it is, but I'm not sure. I mean there are some hints in the gospel of philip I believe.

Or is it dualistic?

Would be glad if anyone could help me out

Thanks a lot!

 

[frangipani]

Hello all,

where have all the gnostics gone? it's been so quiet for the past couple of weeks maybe even months

Anyway, I wanted to know what you guys think, would you say Valentianism is monistic? According to gnosis.org it is, but I'm not sure. I mean there are some hints in the gospel of philip I believe.

Or is it dualistic?

Would be glad if anyone could help me out

Thanks a lot!

Hi, I believe in the beginning everything was monistic there being only the Ineffable Spirit. With the creation of the demiurge, a lesser god, but a god none-the-less, by Sophia (an act She regrets and repents from) all that exists became dualistic. The matter universe created by the demiurge is contained within the parameters of the Ineffable Spirit, like we are contained within the parameters of the matter creation of the demiurge. When the demiurge breathed life into the 'man he had created' man became a living soul. Until then we were no more than any other animal, when the demiurge did this he passed onto mankind something he had inherited from his creator Sophia, an immortal Spirit. In man though this immortal Spirit was void of knowledge of the Divine. Sophia seeing this repented from her error and came to give the Spirit in mankind the knowledge of the Divine, introducing mankind to the Ineffable One through this intervention. It is at this point mankind became human. With this knowledge now we have a choice, serve the demiurge or serve the Ineffable One. Therein is where dualism starts. As I've said in other posts it is the marrying (bonding) on the Spirit filled with the knowledge of the Ineffable Spirit to our soul through our thinking that changes us from being just a man-animal into a human being and this change is manifest in our lives on earth, it is this manifestation of our Spirit that decides our fate once we leave the body. We have choice do we want and love what is actually true and eternal bringing peace of mind and rest, or do we want and love what is an illusion and very false and temporary bringing noise and chaos. There again is dualism, and the choice rests with each of us.

 

[DanielR]

thanks for answering ,

so it doesn't mean (like in Advaita) that I am the Father?

Or could it be said that I am a part of the Father, or even a thought of the Father?

 

[frangipani]

I do not think that I am the Father as some believe they are, I do think the Spirit within us is of the father, therefore a thought of the Father. Whether or not we are redeemed depends on how our mind and soul interact with the Spirit within us. These truths are not found in religions, but within each of us with the inherited Spirit.
This is a summary of how I see it.
People with soul and inherited Spirit who never bond (marry) the two through Christ. I believe their souls perish when their bodies die and all that they were perishes forever and the Spirit returns to the true God to whom it belongs.
Many believe though that the soul of these people does not perish but is reincarnated into another body (old soul, new baby) and this cycle is reoccurring until eventually they either find the Truth in Christ and are redeemable or the matter universe (hell) of the demiurge (the souls creator) dies and ends. Deep in our hearts. I pray that the belief in the reincarnation of the soul is not true, certainly such a belief is not mentioned in the teachings of Christ nor taught from Spirit. However it is possibly the case in the kingdom of the lesser god, creator of earth, the matter universe, mankind and his soul, but not the Spirit entrapped within him. The Spirit is eternal and in ignorance the lesser god implanted and entrapped it in a mortal body. It is the Spirit that is life and belongs to the Ineffable God, the Father of Christ. It is by the nature of inheritance the Divine Spark (Spirit) is passed from generation to generation. This is why Christ came to redeem, take back, what did not belong here. It is not the true Gods will that the Spirit be trapped in matter.
People with soul and inherited Spirit who through the applied knowledge of Christ have used their mind to marry the Spirit and soul as one and become Christ like, that is truly human having come above the mankind of the demiurge, when their earthly bodies die and the Spirit is redeemed to the true God the soul and mind are saved with it, this is true salvation. This is a singleness of mind, soul and Spirit, a one-way trip and the only escape from the matter universe of the demiurge. It is for this purpose the true God sent His Son Christ to wake us up and teach us to see clearly the truth of our existence, offering at the same time through His Word the way for us to free ourselves from this prison of matter created by the lesser god (the demiurge).