Values

[Dadball]

Look at the last month of your life, what would an outsider consider your values are?

 

[Watcher]

Hmmm.....this last month (whew! thank goodness I have been so good lately ) Probably friendship and love. I have also been on a spiritual quest, wherever that might fit.

 

[Lightkeeper]

I wouldn't care. I only care what I think of my values.

 

[Pah]

Look at the last month of your life, what would an outsider consider your values are?

Depends on the outsider.

Bob

 

[robtex]

Look at the last month of your life, what would an outsider consider your values are?

Most people think my values are just fine. I wanted to make a point though about this question. It is a very Christian way of thinking. Always worrying about what your neigbors are gonna think, what God is gonna think and what Jesus is gonna think. I don't want to say that what others think does not matter because they do but, I think one should accept responsiblty for ones own morals and values without needing big brother's or others prescene to motivate them but by their own intrinsic motivation. I would say for me, that it does not matter if God is watching or not or what my neigbors know or not...my motivation for my moral and value choices are not held in check for fear of what others think but instead are what I personally feel is acceptable and right on a daily basis. "What an outsider considers your moral values are" comes across as a spin on original sin.

 

[Dadball]

Depends on the outsider.

What if you were the outsider?

 

[Dadball]

Most people think my values are just fine. I wanted to make a point though about this question. It is a very Christian way of thinking. Always worrying about what your neigbors are gonna think, what God is gonna think and what Jesus is gonna think. I don't want to say that what others think does not matter because they do but, I think one should accept responsiblty for ones own morals and values without needing big brother's or others prescene to motivate them but by their own intrinsic motivation. I would say for me, that it does not matter if God is watching or not or what my neigbors know or not...my motivation for my moral and value choices are not held in check for fear of what others think but instead are what I personally feel is acceptable and right on a daily basis. "What an outsider considers your moral values are" comes across as a spin on original sin.

This is not a "Christian" thing. Christians don't have the corner on values. It is a question that should promote self evalutation. Am I living my values? Do my deeds match my values?

 

[robtex]

This is not a "Christian" thing. Christians don't have the corner on values. It is a question that should promote self evalutation. Am I living my values? Do my deeds match my values?

If you need an outsider to keep your values in check than even if your values are strong your motivations are weak.

 

[SoulTYPE]

I have no shame. I value that as a great thing.

 

[Pah]

... It is a question that should promote self evalutation. Am I living my values? Do my deeds match my values?

For me, that is a better question. And for me, the answer is that I have no guilt so my actions and my values are in concert.

Bob

 

[jewscout]

This is not a "Christian" thing. Christians don't have the corner on values. It is a question that should promote self evalutation. Am I living my values? Do my deeds match my values?

I think like any human being i fall short of what i expect for myself but the point is i get back up and keep reaching. Yaakov's ladder and all that (and for everyone that's in this week's Torah portion!:jiggy: )