questfortruth
Well-Known Member
If some action with one from a million chance will make me infinitely sick, should I make the action? On the other hand, not taking the vaccine is inaction.
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Vaxine
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dybmh
דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
The reason to get a covid vaccine is inorder to prevent hospitalization. Eventhough most people recover from covid, the excessive load on the hospitals triggers a public health emergency which forces local governments to react with policies that may not be popular or even effective.
In the US there have been very few, less than 1000 out of the millions who have had the vaccine who have experienced heart problems. They are easily treated. In the same period it is estimated that the vaccine has saved over 20,000 lives and prevented hundreds of thousands from covid.
I can tell you from my own experience that out of everyone I work with in my hospital, none of them have gotten covid after getting the vaccine. Plenty of them have either gotten sick before the vaccine came out, or after they have waited/refused to get the vaccine. I haven't known anyone yet who has died or gotten anything more than a rash from the vaccine (Moderna).
I can't really say much more in regards to the other vaccines, but I can say that I do trust the Moderna vaccine more than I trust getting sick with Covid. I have some coworkers who have had respiratory issues or have lost their sense of taste and smell due to Covid. I'm gonna nope outa that, personally.
I can't really say much more in regards to the other vaccines, but I can say that I do trust the Moderna vaccine more than I trust getting sick with Covid. I have some coworkers who have had respiratory issues or have lost their sense of taste and smell due to Covid. I'm gonna nope outa that, personally.
Another reason at my age is to avoid
about a 1 in 20 chance of death.
Yah...
I wish I could bring people into the CCU and let them look into the window of a covid patient's room and see them dying. It's one thing to see some talking head on TV telling you about something. It's another to see people struggling to breath while they have a bipap strapped to their face.
It's something you don't forget, for sure.
stvdv
Veteran Member
I live in a tiny village (ca. 1000 people). I heard that 2 died from the vaccination, probably 200 were vaccinated at that time
I see. Are the folks who died people you knew, or was this hearsay? Also, how many got seriously ill from the vaccine that you are aware of? I'd also be curious to know which vaccine this was.
stvdv
Veteran Member
One was our school teacher here, female, ca. 28 years old
Even hearsay in a Dutch village of
I don't talk much to others nor do I read news much, so I don't know if others got seriously ill
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My cousin told me about this guy who took the vaccine in some country in Africa died after he was in a car accident, but the local priest said it was either the vaccine directly or God's punishment for taking it. There is no way in Hades I'll ever go into such extremely risky behaviour. My wife insists I take no risks at all. That's why I'm not wearing masks. The cleaner they put in it gives me an allergic reaction, and that allergy could lead me to the druggist who most likely give me an overdose of some drug the multinational vaccine companies are saying is useful just to they can rip us all off.
Native
Free Natural Philosopher & Comparative Mythologist
When reading the about 100 year history of the ordinary influenza vira which virology experts and vaccines cannot eradicate, I would not take the standing illogical attempts to fight the pandemic by vaccines at all.
My prediction is that the virologists and national "Health Ministeries" ends up recommending annual vaccinations - to not use at all, just like the annual ordinary influenza shots.
And I wouldn't be the least surprised if the same authorities demands pets to be vaccinated too, together with migrating birds and and industrial animals.
It´s all the "Emperors New Clothes".
My prediction is that the virologists and national "Health Ministeries" ends up recommending annual vaccinations - to not use at all, just like the annual ordinary influenza shots.
And I wouldn't be the least surprised if the same authorities demands pets to be vaccinated too, together with migrating birds and and industrial animals.
It´s all the "Emperors New Clothes".
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You "heard" ... ... "probably 200" ...
And did you validate what you heard? And upon what is your probability based? And what, if any, attendant medical factors existed? And, most importantly, what inferences should we make?
Posts such as yours is irresponsibly rubbish at best.
Dunning-Kruger is alive and well in this thread. It's pitiful and it's dangerous.
TagliatelliMonster
Veteran Member
Where in the video does it say anything remotely close to being "infinitely sick" as a side effect?
Yes, you should get vaccinated unless you have a diagnosed medical condition that prevents you.
tas8831
Well-Known Member
That was a lot of words to say "I know virtually nothing about biology or science."
But we knew that.
tas8831
Well-Known Member
Hey hey now - it was a vaxine video, after all!Where in the video does it say anything remotely close to being "infinitely sick" as a side effect?
stvdv
Veteran Member
Posts such as yours is at best:
"Irresponsibly Rubbish", as it is false
"Exhibiting frustration", seeing your word choice
"Foolish", because you state your opinion "that I did not check-facts" as a claim without fact-checking
In short:
"Not friendly"
"Not smart"
Aštra’el
Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
“Should”?
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
Most unlikely.
More likely misinformation.
However people die at the same rate from other causes. whether or not they have been vaccinated.
A few susceptible people have died from blood clots after having the Astra Zenica Vaccine, though this is now extremely rare as it is treatable. It happened to a Doctor in her 40's in our local town. it was very sad but a very rare complication. Statistically it would not be measurable. However several thousand have died in the same region from the virus.
One must keep a sense of proportion.