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What? Me worry?
But being vegetarian is a moral decision. There is some morality at play, I mean animals are dying over this every day.
Would you be okay with eating only animals that die of natural causes or accidents?
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But being vegetarian is a moral decision. There is some morality at play, I mean animals are dying over this every day.
No, but I'm sure you would!!
What is a better person?Does vegetarianism actually make you a better person?
Or do you agree with the following statement more? "What goes into someone's mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them."
Do you know any mean vegetarians?
OK, this thread has been in good condition for a while.Do you know any mean vegetarians?
Would you be if it were a human instead of some other kind of animal?Would you be okay with eating only animals that die of natural causes or accidents?
Vegetarianism is only a diet.Does vegetarianism actually make you a better person?
Or do you agree with the following statement more? "What goes into someone's mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them."
Do you know any mean vegetarians?
We are about as much a natural predator as we are a natural peanut butter and jelly sandwich eater. We aren't living in tribal societies and what would be the most economical for them isn't what is the most economical for us. Trying to argue this is like trying to argue the superiority of the paleo diet. Their diet was based on availability, not 'best suited' or 'most ethical.' Our availability means it would be silly to ignore that meat is unnecessary for the vast majority of modern humans to stay healthy.I think it's more a blatant denial of the nature of predator and prey, and the importance of the food chain and the fact that humans play a natural role.
You know someone has taken the argument into the gutter when he has to bring Hitler into it!!
You can't seperate yourself as being apart from nature. We are natural preditors like any other lifeform out there. Denial dosent change anything.We are about as much a natural predator as we are a natural peanut butter and jelly sandwich eater. We aren't living in tribal societies and what would be the most economical for them isn't what is the most economical for us. Trying to argue this is like trying to argue the superiority of the paleo diet. Their diet was based on availability, not 'best suited' or 'most ethical.' Our availability means it would be silly to ignore that meat is unnecessary for the vast majority of modern humans to stay healthy.
This is like when people argue that women should be in the kitchen because female domesticity is historical and natural and anything else they say about it is just denial. Not only does this gratuitously oversimplify nature and undersell cultural impact, but what's natural doesn't mean what's ethical, efficient, productive, etc.You can't seperate yourself as being apart from nature. We are natural preditors like any other lifeform out there. Denial dosent change anything.
Really? I did not know you ate ribs, jerky, burgers, wings or drumsticks.I'd rather chow down on bacon, ribs, jerky, burgers, wings, drumsticks, & ham than be a better person.
But you already knew that.
Keep denying that.This is like when people argue that women should be in the kitchen because female domesticity is historical and natural and anything else they say about it is just denial. Not only does this gratuitously oversimplify nature and undersell cultural impact, but what's natural doesn't mean what's ethical, efficient, productive, etc.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature
As I said, appealing to 'the paleolithic man' as blueprints for modern behavior and meta ethics is silly. The definition of backwards.
We *aren't* predators, most of us buy meat we don't need nutritionally from a grocery store and indulge in a way that is every bit as natural and self-destructive as we do cake and ice cream, or alcohol, except that at least those are mostly causing our own suffering. And doesn't add the unnecessary suffering of another animal on top of it.
Would you be if it were a human instead of some other kind of animal?