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Vegetarianism makes you a better person?

BSM1

What? Me worry?
But being vegetarian is a moral decision. There is some morality at play, I mean animals are dying over this every day.


Would you be okay with eating only animals that die of natural causes or accidents?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Just think if this was true.
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roger1440

I do stuff
Does vegetarianism actually make you a better person?

Or do you agree with the following statement more? "What goes into someone's mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them."

Do you know any mean vegetarians? :rolleyes:
What is a better person?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
You know someone has taken the argument into the gutter when he has to bring Hitler into it!!
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Does vegetarianism actually make you a better person?

Or do you agree with the following statement more? "What goes into someone's mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them."

Do you know any mean vegetarians? :rolleyes:
Vegetarianism is only a diet.

It may be of help in an environmental sense and for the welfare of animals.

It is still just one aspect of the person. It can hardly indicate much about the person proper.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Staff member
Premium Member
I think it's more a blatant denial of the nature of predator and prey, and the importance of the food chain and the fact that humans play a natural role.
We are about as much a natural predator as we are a natural peanut butter and jelly sandwich eater. We aren't living in tribal societies and what would be the most economical for them isn't what is the most economical for us. Trying to argue this is like trying to argue the superiority of the paleo diet. Their diet was based on availability, not 'best suited' or 'most ethical.' Our availability means it would be silly to ignore that meat is unnecessary for the vast majority of modern humans to stay healthy.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
We are about as much a natural predator as we are a natural peanut butter and jelly sandwich eater. We aren't living in tribal societies and what would be the most economical for them isn't what is the most economical for us. Trying to argue this is like trying to argue the superiority of the paleo diet. Their diet was based on availability, not 'best suited' or 'most ethical.' Our availability means it would be silly to ignore that meat is unnecessary for the vast majority of modern humans to stay healthy.
You can't seperate yourself as being apart from nature. We are natural preditors like any other lifeform out there. Denial dosent change anything.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I myself don't believe that you are a better person just because you don't eat meat, I think its because those who mostly don't eat meat are compassionate towards animals, and that is what makes them seem better, and of course there are many meat eaters who also love animals.
 

ADigitalArtist

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Staff member
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You can't seperate yourself as being apart from nature. We are natural preditors like any other lifeform out there. Denial dosent change anything.
This is like when people argue that women should be in the kitchen because female domesticity is historical and natural and anything else they say about it is just denial. Not only does this gratuitously oversimplify nature and undersell cultural impact, but what's natural doesn't mean what's ethical, efficient, productive, etc.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature

As I said, appealing to 'the paleolithic man' as blueprints for modern behavior and meta ethics is silly. The definition of backwards.
We *aren't* predators, most of us buy meat we don't need nutritionally from a grocery store and indulge in a way that is every bit as natural and self-destructive as we do cake and ice cream, or alcohol, except that at least those are mostly causing our own suffering. And doesn't add the unnecessary suffering of another animal on top of it.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This is like when people argue that women should be in the kitchen because female domesticity is historical and natural and anything else they say about it is just denial. Not only does this gratuitously oversimplify nature and undersell cultural impact, but what's natural doesn't mean what's ethical, efficient, productive, etc.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature

As I said, appealing to 'the paleolithic man' as blueprints for modern behavior and meta ethics is silly. The definition of backwards.
We *aren't* predators, most of us buy meat we don't need nutritionally from a grocery store and indulge in a way that is every bit as natural and self-destructive as we do cake and ice cream, or alcohol, except that at least those are mostly causing our own suffering. And doesn't add the unnecessary suffering of another animal on top of it.
Keep denying that.

It changes nothing.

Humans are omnivorous.

We are collectively predators.

Candy coating isn't going to change any of it.
 
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