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Virginia CountyTo Re-Name Schools After Confederates

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I wonder if the slaves were allowed water and heat breaks?

That's not some sort of attack on workers. It's an attack on too much government interference.

I worked for decades in a state that does not require any breaks for anyone. But I definitely got plenty of breaks. I also was never paid anywhere close to minimum wage. People will shop around for a company to work with.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
That's not some sort of attack on workers. It's an attack on too much government interference.

I worked for decades in a state that does not require any breaks for anyone. But I definitely got plenty of breaks. I also was never paid anywhere close to minimum wage. People will shop around for a company to work with.
I think there are around 20+/- states where employers don't have to give employees lunch breaks or rest breaks. I also think that was for an eight hour or less day. Over eight its required.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Presidents that owned slaves.


"George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, Andrew Jackson, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, John Tyler, James Polk, Zachary Taylor, Andrew Johnson, and Ulysses Grant"


Yes, I think I've seen this list before. There are many dark chapters from our history that we should acknowledge. .I can't say whether or not any of these people should have cities named after them or be honored with their portraits on money, names on schools, statues, etc.

Some of it may be contingent on what they're being honored for. Washington and Jefferson were slave owners, but they were never honored for that. In fact, most people didn't even know that Washington and Jefferson were slaveowners, since that bit of historical trivia was left out of the history books - at least for a certain period of time. If we're honoring someone, we're not going to say anything embarrassing or anything to make them look bad.

With the Confederates, it might be different, since they're specifically being honored for being Confederates, and nothing else.

A contrasting example might be that of John Stith Pemberton, the inventor of Coca-Cola, but also a former Confederate general. If he was to be honored, it would be for inventing Coca-Cola, not because he was a Confederate general.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I wonder if the slaves were allowed water and heat breaks?

That seems an odd regulation to oppose, given
the level of other regulations imposed. This one
is about safety. I know...having worked in Miami
in July. 140F in the building...95F outside where
I'd cool down. Shade & water enabled working.
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Most statues to Confederate "heroes" were erected between 1890 and 1925. That is when the Jim Crow laws began and spread in order to remove political rights and freedoms from African American citizens, most of whom belonged to the Republican Party. The South went completely Democratic, as black officeholders were removed from office and black voters were harassed, intimidated, and even murdered. The statues were symbolic of that change in American politics--a resurgence of racial hatred.

Most such Confederate statues were removed recently because of a new changes in our politics--a popular rejection of the legacy of slavery, the whitewashing of the Civil War, and racial inequality. High school names were changed for the same very modern reasons--to eliminate the legacy of racial inequality. The restoration of those high school names was also caused by modern politics--the backlash against removing those symbols of our ugly past. Nothing about this issue is really about history. It is about modern attitudes towards symbols of what we imagine the past was like. It is not about our ancestors, but ourselves and our current attitudes towards racial equality and also partisan politics (which can differ on how to address racial inequality).
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Collectors buy many things from the past because they are collectibles.

Lets look at current currency. Take the $20.
It depicts a slave owner on the front.
The white house that used black slaves in its building and rebuilding on the back

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Then there is "In God We Trust" which is a different issue.
In God we trust is a response to the godless commies.
 
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