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Voter ID Laws

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
It isn't just "photo ID of some kind or another". Here's the list of acceptable forms of ID from Texas that just got struck down:

1. State driver's license
2. State ID card
3. a concealed handgun license,
4. a U.S. passport,
5. a military ID card,
6. a U.S citizenship certificate with a photo

That's it.

If you don't drive, don't carry a gun, don't travel internationally, aren't in the military, and didn't immigrate to the US, then you aren't likely to have any ID that meets the requirements as a matter of course.

Texas implemented a voter ID card that people can get, but this "free" ID can have costs associated with it:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/03/14/fox-ignores-significant-costs-that-come-with-fr/184318

Also, if "two pieces of secondary ID" are all that's needed to get the photo ID that will let a person vote, why wouldn't you let someone vote by presenting those same pieces of secondary ID at the poll? What extra level of security is gained by making the person wait in two lines instead of one?
Don't know if it's the case in Texas, but here in Illinnoying, you could go get your state ID/driver's license/whatever...and then you had to make a separate trip to a different location (usually the county building) in order to register to vote. I believe they've made full registration available when applying for state ID, etc.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It would appear that most US citizens do in fact have and use with considerable frequency some variety of official photo ID, be it a driver license, passport, weapon permit, state ID or something else.

I would assume that the FBI and NSA have access to most of that data, so in effect there are hardly any US citizens whose info is not in the federal government databases.

I am still not sure why there is no official centralized ID card, but I guess it matters little, once there are so many efficient localized alternatives.

I am still puzzled by the apparent dislike to the idea, as well.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
The US governmental system is based in the idea that we do not want an efficient government: we want complete separation of the legislative, executive and judicial powers, and complete separation between the state and national governments. The Founders saw how a comparatively efficient British Empire, with no real separation of powers, and no local/state level autonomy, was able to operate to the detriment of both the citizens of the Empire, and the various parts of the Empire (e.g., the 13 colonies) in the 1700s. The Constitution was developed to reduce the possibility of tyranny like that.

US political history has been a tension between the pressure for a decentralized, state-based system versus an increasingly centralized national government, pretty much since the founding. Elections are State/local affairs, even the election of the President (because we don't directly elect the President).

Personally, I don't have a problem with showing an ID to vote...but I do recognize that it can be an issue for part of the population...and that our system already makes it inconvenient to exercise the right to vote. We need to increase ease of access, not decrease it. Some ideas: either make the traditional Tuesday election a holiday, or shift it to the weekend; increase early voting (at a polling place, at the local voting center, by mail); on-site registration and provisional ballots; automatic registration when applying for any license or permit...that'd be a start, I guess...
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Do you mean dislike to creating centralized id cards? or the dislike for photo id voting laws?

The argument against centralized id cards I have is that if they were super accessible then government might start requiring photoID for anything loosely government related. This would mean that people like illegal immigrants, whistleblowers or anyone the government was loosely interested in could be located with ease or cut off from important services.
That boat seems to have sailed already. How difficult can it be for the FBI and NSA to have access to driver license, passport and gun license data and centralize it?

I would expect that the very few people that are not in federal databases already will lead rather restricted lives already.
 

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
That boat seems to have sailed already. How difficult can it be for the FBI and NSA to have access to driver license, passport and gun license data and centralize it?

I would expect that the very few people that are not in federal databases already will lead rather restricted lives already.
As federal agencies, there are legal limits on what conditions they can seek information on an individual...as it is, though, protocols for sharing data between the states and with federal law enforcement already exist. FBI has to go through official process to request Internal Revenue Service (tax) records, etc.

Why would federal databases about identify/residence be of any importance to voting, which is handled (that is to say, it is not at all the responsibility of the federal government) by the states?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yeah. The founding fathers were essentially trying to retain every aspect of feudal life they could. Yet they have a huge cult of personality surrounding them.
I don't see it that way.
Significance lies in the system they set in motion rather than their identities.
They could've been hateful sociopaths for all I care.
(That some are fascinating is just icing on the cake.)
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It isn't just "photo ID of some kind or another". Here's the list of acceptable forms of ID from Texas that just got struck down:

1. State driver's license
2. State ID card
3. a concealed handgun license,
4. a U.S. passport,
5. a military ID card,
6. a U.S citizenship certificate with a photo

That's it.

If you don't drive, don't carry a gun, don't travel internationally, aren't in the military, and didn't immigrate to the US, then you aren't likely to have any ID that meets the requirements as a matter of course.
During the 2014 and 2012 elections, I lost my ID, and the only thing that saved was it is very easy to renew your license online in Indiana (way too easy actually), and you don't have to have your birth certificate or social security card to renew online and get your new card like you do at the license branch (my mom was, at the time, still holding onto my BC and SS card and had misplaced them).
So, it's not just an issue if you drive or are in the military, it's an issue of being able to get the required documents for an ID, which can present many challenges and obstacles that can be difficult and lengthy to overcome.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
During the 2014 and 2012 elections, I lost my ID, and the only thing that saved was it is very easy to renew your license online in Indiana (way too easy actually), and you don't have to have your birth certificate or social security card to renew online and get your new card like you do at the license branch (my mom was, at the time, still holding onto my BC and SS card and had misplaced them).
So, it's not just an issue if you drive or are in the military, it's an issue of being able to get the required documents for an ID, which can present many challenges and obstacles that can be difficult and lengthy to overcome.
You seem to forget that when you got your "original" licensee you probably had to have proof of your identity, thus when you "renewed" your license you had already proved your identity. Just as my wife doesn't need additional identity to get her dependent's ID renewed, her original ID was issued with proof of marriage (to me) and my military identification. Therefore you first sentence is somewhat invalid since I doubt you have to have your birth certificate or social security card to renew in person.
Just what "challenges" are you assuming are actual "challenges" to obtain a valid ID card?
 

Acim

Revelation all the time
That makes me ask. What is it a big deal in the US in requiring people to produce Photo ID when they turn up to vote? My main point is how do such people cope in the modern world without having photo ID? Is Photo ID super expensive? The other point is how do you know if someone is the person they claim they are if they do not produce ID corroborating what they claim?

4 questions here. I'm mostly interested in the first one.

Politicians buy/earn votes. That is their (and their campaign's) job. The more votes you get, the better. Get more than your opponent, and you win. If you google "dead people voting" and look at a number of links, not just one, you see that historically, people would game the system. Personally, I don't see that ever really stopping (trying to game the system, via fraud) as it can swing elections. Given the U.S. two-party system, it is not just one side has historically done this and the other has not or will not. They both have/do.

The big deal is if opposition is calling out the fraud (that is intentionally being utilized to increase votes), that means one side will not be able to count on all those extra votes. So, the way to oppose that is by claiming discrimination against a segment of the population. And so it becomes, IMO, a huge deal because the discrimination claims are seen by most as the principle of the matter, when in reality it is truly trying to defend the fraudulent voting procedures. But nailing opposition on the discrimination front has benefits and if able to maintain the fraud, it is icing on the cake.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Just to note a few items of importance regarding voter photo ID laws in the US:

Until about a decade ago, few states had additional requirements for voting than set forth in federal law, namely, a first-time voter who registered by mail had to present any one of several possible forms of ID, which could include a utility bill with one's name on it or a bank statement. Indiana was the first state to enact a photo ID law, which was upheld in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-21.pdf For a variety of reasons this was a bad test-case for such laws. In large part, the Court upheld the law because petitioners had not sufficiently developed the record. Not one person was identified at trial in District court who had been or would be unable to vote because of the law or whose right to vote was unduly burdened. The judge estimated (somehow) that at the time of enactment of the law about 43,000 Indiana residents did not a drivers license, which translates to about 99% of eligible voters already having a qualifying photo ID.

Petitioners did not challenge the law on grounds of violating Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which is the enforcement effort authorized by the Fifteenth Amendment, prohibiting laws that result in the denial or abridgement of the the right to vote on account of race or color. The right to vote, of course, entails the process of registration, information on how to register and poll locations, access to a voting booth, the whole shebang that culminates in a person being allowed to cast a ballot and have it counted. And perhaps Indiana's law does not deliver any racially or ethnically discriminatory impact. Petitioners didn't address any issue of the race or ethnicity of those without a photo ID.

The case challenging the 2011 voter ID law in Texas presents a sharp contrast to Crawford in many ways. After an en banc hearing, the Fifth Circuit affirmed the District court's holding that this law (SB 14) violates Section 2's disparate impact provision.

Among the factors by which the courts reached their conclusion of a Section 2 violation was the fact of the most recent census showing what the District court termed a “seismic demographic shift” entailing a rapid increase of minority populations in the state. The District court noted that the party currently in power in the legislative and executive branches is “facing a declining voter base and can gain partisan advantage” through a strict voter ID law.

The Circuit court followed the District court in highlighting the procedural anomalies under which SB 14 was passed:

In this case, for example, the procedural maneuvers employed by the Texas Legislature and the State occurred, as the district court notes, only after repeated attempts to pass voter identification bills were blocked through countervailing procedural maneuvers. See Veasey v. Perry, 71 F. Supp. 3d at 645–46. At the same time, SB 14 was subject to numerous and radical procedural departures that may lend credence to an inference of discriminatory intent. See id. at 647–51. These included: (1) getting special permission to file the bill under a low number reserved for the Lieutenant Governor’s legislative priorities; (2) Governor Perry’s decision to designate the bill as emergency legislation so that it could be considered during the first sixty days of the legislative session; (3) suspending the two-thirds rule regarding the number of votes required to make SB 14 a “special order”; (4) allowing the bill to bypass the ordinary committee process in the Texas House and Senate; (5) passing SB 14 with an unverified $2 million fiscal note despite the prohibition on doing so in the 2011 legislative session due to a $27 million budget shortfall; (6) cutting debate short to enable a three-day passage through the Senate; and (7) passing resolutions to allow the conference committee to add provisions to SB 14, contrary to the Legislature’s rules and normal practice. See id. at 647–53. Such treatment was virtually unprecedented.[22]​

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/14/14-41127-CV3.pdf

The courts both pointed out that in the same session in which SB 14 was passed, the legislature violated the Voting Rights Act by passing two redistricting plans that were found to have a retrogressive or racially discriminatory impact.

The Circuit noted the facts of the disparate impact analysis of SB 14 that were presented at trial:

2. SB 14’s Disparate Impact

The district court found that 608,470 registered voters, or 4.5% of all registered voters in Texas, lack SB 14 ID. Veasey v. Perry, 71 F. Supp. 3d at 659. Of those, 534,512 voters did not qualify for a disability exemption from SB 14’s requirements. Id. The latter figure, which was derived by comparing the Texas Election Management System with databases containing evidence of who possesses SB 14 ID, is known as the “No-Match List.”[42] Id.

(a) Expert Analyses of SB 14’s Impact

Plaintiffs’ experts relied on four distinct methods of analysis to determine the races of those on the No-Match List.[43] Id. at 660–62. Those included: (1) ecological regression analysis, (2) homogenous block group analysis, (3) comparing the No-Match List to a Spanish Surname Voter Registration list, and (4) reliance on data provided by Catalist LLC, a company that compiles election data. Id. at 661. The ecological regression analysis performed by Dr. Stephen Ansolabehere, an expert in American electoral politics and statistical methods in political science, which compared the No-Match List with census data, revealed that Hispanic registered voters and Black registered voters were respectively 195% and 305% more likely than their Anglo peers to lack SB 14 ID. Id. According to Dr. Ansolabehere, this disparity is “statistically significant and ‘highly unlikely to have arisen by chance.’” Id. The homogenous block group analysis yielded similar results, and other experts arrived at similar conclusions. Id. at 661–62. These statistical analyses of the No-Match List were corroborated by a survey of over 2,300 eligible Texas voters, which concluded that Blacks were 1.78 times more likely than Whites, and Latinos 2.42 times more likely, to lack SB 14 ID. Id.

[. . .]

The district court thus credited the testimony and analyses of Plaintiffs’ three experts, each of which found that SB 14 disparately impacts African-American and Hispanic registered voters in Texas. Id. at 663.

The district court likewise concluded that SB 14 disproportionately impacts the poor, who are disproportionately minorities. Id. at 664–65. It credited expert testimony that 21.4% of eligible voters earning less than $20,000 per year lack SB 14 ID, compared to only 2.6% of voters earning between $100,000 and $150,000 per year. Id. at 664. Lower income respondents were also more likely to lack the underlying documents to get an EIC [Election Identification Certificate]. Id. Dr. Jane Henrici, an anthropologist and professorial lecturer at George Washington University, explained that:

[U ]nreliable and irregular wage work and other income . . . affect the cost of taking the time to locate and bring the requisite papers and identity cards, travel to a processing site, wait through the assessment, and get photo identifications. This is because most job opportunities do not include paid sick or other paid leave; taking off from work means lost income. Employed low-income Texans not already in possession of such documents will struggle to afford income loss from the unpaid time needed to get photo identification.​

Id. (alteration in original).

Furthermore, the court found that the poor are less likely to avail themselves of services that require ID, such as obtaining credit and other financial services. Id. They are also less likely to own vehicles and are therefore more likely to rely on public transportation. Id. at 665, 672–73. As a result, the poor are less likely to have a driver’s license and face greater obstacles in obtaining photo identification. Id. Even obtaining an EIC poses an obstacle--the district court credited evidence that hundreds of thousands of voters face round-trip travel times of 90 minutes or more to the nearest location issuing EICs. Id. at 672. Of eligible voters without access to a vehicle, a large percentage faced trips of three hours or more to obtain an EIC.[44] Id.

The individual Plaintiffs testified that they faced many specific burdens in attempting to obtain SB 14 ID or vote. The district court found that “[t]he Plaintiffs [d]emonstrate[d] the [i ]mpact” of SB 14 along several axes, including: (1) the difficulty of obtaining an EIC and voting with the proper ID because of Texas’s poor implementation of this program; (2) the cost of underlying documents necessary to obtain an EIC or other SB 14 ID; (3) difficulties with delayed, nonexistent, out-of-state, or amended birth certificates due to nontraditional births and errors on birth certificates; (4) long distances and other travel issues that made getting to a registrar and DPS office problematic for many Plaintiffs; (5) a strict disability exemption48; and (6) a burdensome alternative of voting absentee. See id. Some of the Plaintiffs faced difficulties along multiple axes in attempting to get SB 14 ID and vote in person.

[. . .]

Plaintiff Bates faced a similar problem when she reported to the polls, as she was unaware that her existing ID was insufficient until she attempted to vote in person. At that point, it was too late to cast an absentee ballot, and she was not able to obtain SB 14 ID in time to cure her provisional ballot because she could not afford to purchase her Mississippi birth certificate at its $42 cost on her $321 fixed monthly income. Id. at 649 & n.115, 665. Plaintiff Gordon Benjamin was not able to obtain an EIC at the DPS because he was unable to get his Louisiana birth certificate for the hefty $81 fee online.

[. . .]

Traveling to DPS offices to obtain EICs posed an additional obstacle for many Plaintiffs. The district court found that four Plaintiffs rely almost exclusively on public transportation. One of these Plaintiffs, Ken Gandy, faces an hour-long, one-way trip to reach the nearest DPS office. See id. at 673. Plaintiffs Estrada and Espinoza use family and friends for transportation, but they each face “a 60-mile roundtrip ride to the nearest DPS station.”

[. . .]

The district court ultimately found:

SB 14’s voter ID requirements interact with social and historical conditions in Texas to cause an inequality in the electoral opportunities enjoyed by African–Americans and Hispanic voters as compared to Anglo voters. In other words, SB 14 does not disproportionately impact African–Americans and Hispanics by mere chance. Rather, it does so by its interaction with the vestiges of past and current racial discrimination.​

Veasey v. Perry, 71 F. Supp. 3d at 698 (emphasis added).
http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/14/14-41127-CV3.pdf
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
In Crawford, Stevens' majority opinion repeatedly asserts that the Indiana photo ID is “free”. This misses the point that for many people who do not already have a qualifying ID, obtaining the documents necessary in order to get the photo ID to vote is far from “free” and, for many people, is horribly time-consuming (which, for many of the same people, is just an additional financial burden). This is all the more true in Texas, where SB 14 eliminated the indigency exemption found in Indiana's law, and where distances to the local DPS are often much greater.

The upholding of Indiana's photo ID law in Crawford is oddly and ironically premised on a reference to Harper v. Virginia Bd. of Elections (1966) (which struck down a poll tax) made in Anderson v. Celebrezze (1983) (which struck down a restrictive filing deadline that kept John Anderson off the ballot in Ohio in the 1980 Presidential election), where, in a wisp of obiter dictum, the Court noted that “the general rule that 'evenhanded restrictions that protect the integrity and reliability of the electoral process itself' are not invidious and satisfy the standard set forth in Harper.” In Veasey, the District and Circuit courts put the lie to Texas' contention that SB 14 would or was intended to protect “the integrity and reliability of the electoral process”. The Texas legislature was able to cite exactly 2 cases of voter impersonation out of 20 million votes cast the previous decade in Texas. It's in mail-in ballots where voter fraud happens. SB 14, like the other photo ID laws, does nothing to address the problem of voter fraud in mail-in voting. Indeed, at trial the state repeatedly tried justify SB 14 by noting that people who had difficulty getting the photo ID--i.e., whose right to vote is abridged by the law--could vote by absentee ballot. As the Circuit stated:

The option of mail-in voting also showcases the dubious connection between the State’s interests and SB 14’s provisions. In order to prevent voter fraud, the State has pushed more vulnerable elderly voters away from in-person voting--a form of voting with little proven incidence of fraud--and toward mail-in voting, which the record shows is far more vulnerable to fraud, particularly among the elderly. Id. at 639–41, 653. In fact, SB 14 does nothing to address the far more prevalent issue of fraudulent absentee ballots. Id. at 641.
http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/14/14-41127-CV3.pdf

The Texas law clearly violates the “results test” of Section 2 of the VRA, and I suspect that many other such laws would likewise, if there were a proper disparate impact analysis as found in Veasey.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
Just to note a few items of importance regarding voter photo ID laws in the US:

Until about a decade ago, few states had additional requirements for voting than set forth in federal law, namely, a first-time voter who registered by mail had to present any one of several possible forms of ID, which could include a utility bill with one's name on it or a bank statement. Indiana was the first state to enact a photo ID law, which was upheld in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-21.pdf For a variety of reasons this was a bad test-case for such laws. In large part, the Court upheld the law because petitioners had not sufficiently developed the record. Not one person was identified at trial in District court who had been or would be unable to vote because of the law or whose right to vote was unduly burdened. The judge estimated (somehow) that at the time of enactment of the law about 43,000 Indiana residents did not a drivers license, which translates to about 99% of eligible voters already having a qualifying photo ID.

Petitioners did not challenge the law on grounds of violating Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which is the enforcement effort authorized by the Fifteenth Amendment, prohibiting laws that result in the denial or abridgement of the the right to vote on account of race or color. The right to vote, of course, entails the process of registration, information on how to register and poll locations, access to a voting booth, the whole shebang that culminates in a person being allowed to cast a ballot and have it counted. And perhaps Indiana's law does not deliver any racially or ethnically discriminatory impact. Petitioners didn't address any issue of the race or ethnicity of those without a photo ID.

The case challenging the 2011 voter ID law in Texas presents a sharp contrast to Crawford in many ways. After an en banc hearing, the Fifth Circuit affirmed the District court's holding that this law (SB 14) violates Section 2's disparate impact provision.

Among the factors by which the courts reached their conclusion of a Section 2 violation was the fact of the most recent census showing what the District court termed a “seismic demographic shift” entailing a rapid increase of minority populations in the state. The District court noted that the party currently in power in the legislative and executive branches is “facing a declining voter base and can gain partisan advantage” through a strict voter ID law.

The Circuit court followed the District court in highlighting the procedural anomalies under which SB 14 was passed:

In this case, for example, the procedural maneuvers employed by the Texas Legislature and the State occurred, as the district court notes, only after repeated attempts to pass voter identification bills were blocked through countervailing procedural maneuvers. See Veasey v. Perry, 71 F. Supp. 3d at 645–46. At the same time, SB 14 was subject to numerous and radical procedural departures that may lend credence to an inference of discriminatory intent. See id. at 647–51. These included: (1) getting special permission to file the bill under a low number reserved for the Lieutenant Governor’s legislative priorities; (2) Governor Perry’s decision to designate the bill as emergency legislation so that it could be considered during the first sixty days of the legislative session; (3) suspending the two-thirds rule regarding the number of votes required to make SB 14 a “special order”; (4) allowing the bill to bypass the ordinary committee process in the Texas House and Senate; (5) passing SB 14 with an unverified $2 million fiscal note despite the prohibition on doing so in the 2011 legislative session due to a $27 million budget shortfall; (6) cutting debate short to enable a three-day passage through the Senate; and (7) passing resolutions to allow the conference committee to add provisions to SB 14, contrary to the Legislature’s rules and normal practice. See id. at 647–53. Such treatment was virtually unprecedented.[22]​

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/14/14-41127-CV3.pdf

The courts both pointed out that in the same session in which SB 14 was passed, the legislature violated the Voting Rights Act by passing two redistricting plans that were found to have a retrogressive or racially discriminatory impact.

The Circuit noted the facts of the disparate impact analysis of SB 14 that were presented at trial:

2. SB 14’s Disparate Impact

The district court found that 608,470 registered voters, or 4.5% of all registered voters in Texas, lack SB 14 ID. Veasey v. Perry, 71 F. Supp. 3d at 659. Of those, 534,512 voters did not qualify for a disability exemption from SB 14’s requirements. Id. The latter figure, which was derived by comparing the Texas Election Management System with databases containing evidence of who possesses SB 14 ID, is known as the “No-Match List.”[42] Id.

(a) Expert Analyses of SB 14’s Impact

Plaintiffs’ experts relied on four distinct methods of analysis to determine the races of those on the No-Match List.[43] Id. at 660–62. Those included: (1) ecological regression analysis, (2) homogenous block group analysis, (3) comparing the No-Match List to a Spanish Surname Voter Registration list, and (4) reliance on data provided by Catalist LLC, a company that compiles election data. Id. at 661. The ecological regression analysis performed by Dr. Stephen Ansolabehere, an expert in American electoral politics and statistical methods in political science, which compared the No-Match List with census data, revealed that Hispanic registered voters and Black registered voters were respectively 195% and 305% more likely than their Anglo peers to lack SB 14 ID. Id. According to Dr. Ansolabehere, this disparity is “statistically significant and ‘highly unlikely to have arisen by chance.’” Id. The homogenous block group analysis yielded similar results, and other experts arrived at similar conclusions. Id. at 661–62. These statistical analyses of the No-Match List were corroborated by a survey of over 2,300 eligible Texas voters, which concluded that Blacks were 1.78 times more likely than Whites, and Latinos 2.42 times more likely, to lack SB 14 ID. Id.

[. . .]

The district court thus credited the testimony and analyses of Plaintiffs’ three experts, each of which found that SB 14 disparately impacts African-American and Hispanic registered voters in Texas. Id. at 663.

The district court likewise concluded that SB 14 disproportionately impacts the poor, who are disproportionately minorities. Id. at 664–65. It credited expert testimony that 21.4% of eligible voters earning less than $20,000 per year lack SB 14 ID, compared to only 2.6% of voters earning between $100,000 and $150,000 per year. Id. at 664. Lower income respondents were also more likely to lack the underlying documents to get an EIC [Election Identification Certificate]. Id. Dr. Jane Henrici, an anthropologist and professorial lecturer at George Washington University, explained that:

[U ]nreliable and irregular wage work and other income . . . affect the cost of taking the time to locate and bring the requisite papers and identity cards, travel to a processing site, wait through the assessment, and get photo identifications. This is because most job opportunities do not include paid sick or other paid leave; taking off from work means lost income. Employed low-income Texans not already in possession of such documents will struggle to afford income loss from the unpaid time needed to get photo identification.​
Id. (alteration in original).

Furthermore, the court found that the poor are less likely to avail themselves of services that require ID, such as obtaining credit and other financial services. Id. They are also less likely to own vehicles and are therefore more likely to rely on public transportation. Id. at 665, 672–73. As a result, the poor are less likely to have a driver’s license and face greater obstacles in obtaining photo identification. Id. Even obtaining an EIC poses an obstacle--the district court credited evidence that hundreds of thousands of voters face round-trip travel times of 90 minutes or more to the nearest location issuing EICs. Id. at 672. Of eligible voters without access to a vehicle, a large percentage faced trips of three hours or more to obtain an EIC.[44] Id.

The individual Plaintiffs testified that they faced many specific burdens in attempting to obtain SB 14 ID or vote. The district court found that “[t]he Plaintiffs [d]emonstrate[d] the [i ]mpact” of SB 14 along several axes, including: (1) the difficulty of obtaining an EIC and voting with the proper ID because of Texas’s poor implementation of this program; (2) the cost of underlying documents necessary to obtain an EIC or other SB 14 ID; (3) difficulties with delayed, nonexistent, out-of-state, or amended birth certificates due to nontraditional births and errors on birth certificates; (4) long distances and other travel issues that made getting to a registrar and DPS office problematic for many Plaintiffs; (5) a strict disability exemption48; and (6) a burdensome alternative of voting absentee. See id. Some of the Plaintiffs faced difficulties along multiple axes in attempting to get SB 14 ID and vote in person.

[. . .]

Plaintiff Bates faced a similar problem when she reported to the polls, as she was unaware that her existing ID was insufficient until she attempted to vote in person. At that point, it was too late to cast an absentee ballot, and she was not able to obtain SB 14 ID in time to cure her provisional ballot because she could not afford to purchase her Mississippi birth certificate at its $42 cost on her $321 fixed monthly income. Id. at 649 & n.115, 665. Plaintiff Gordon Benjamin was not able to obtain an EIC at the DPS because he was unable to get his Louisiana birth certificate for the hefty $81 fee online.

[. . .]

Traveling to DPS offices to obtain EICs posed an additional obstacle for many Plaintiffs. The district court found that four Plaintiffs rely almost exclusively on public transportation. One of these Plaintiffs, Ken Gandy, faces an hour-long, one-way trip to reach the nearest DPS office. See id. at 673. Plaintiffs Estrada and Espinoza use family and friends for transportation, but they each face “a 60-mile roundtrip ride to the nearest DPS station.”

[. . .]

The district court ultimately found:

SB 14’s voter ID requirements interact with social and historical conditions in Texas to cause an inequality in the electoral opportunities enjoyed by African–Americans and Hispanic voters as compared to Anglo voters. In other words, SB 14 does not disproportionately impact African–Americans and Hispanics by mere chance. Rather, it does so by its interaction with the vestiges of past and current racial discrimination.​
Veasey v. Perry, 71 F. Supp. 3d at 698 (emphasis added).​
http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/14/14-41127-CV3.pdf
Thanks for a fact-filled and to the point posting. I learned something reading it.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
There is that.
But they sowed the seeds of peaceful & methodical legal progression beyond that. Consider that they envisioned change without knowing where it would lead. The future citizens would drive that bus. They didn't just make laws.....they designed a dynamic system.
If I've learned anything in my lifetime, one lesson is that we should be grateful to the imperfect people such as the founders who created something larger than themselves.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
You seem to forget that when you got your "original" licensee you probably had to have proof of your identity, thus when you "renewed" your license you had already proved your identity.
That is not how it works here. Before they started offering online renewals, and still when you go to they physical branch, you have to show proof of identity. I am forgetting nothing, you are assuming everything.
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Thanks for a fact-filled and to the point posting. I learned something reading it.
Your're welcome. Thanks for saying so.

Perhaps it should be noted that of the 34 states that have enacted voter ID laws beyond what the federal law requires, most allow at least some persons who do not have the designated ID to sign an affidavit and cast a ballot that will be counted (unless the person is not registered) without further action by the voter. In the remaining states with additional voter ID laws, a person without the designated ID can cast a provisional ballot and then has a few days to provide an acceptable form of ID in order for his/her vote to be counted.

The NCSL provides a full rundown of current voter ID laws: http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx

I think most of these laws are just an attempt to obstruct a certain segment of the population from voting. Any instance of denying a registered voter the right to cast a ballot that will be counted is unconstitutional because the right to vote is a personal right. And in all of those states that disallow a voter to cast a counted ballot due to the voter lacking a certain form of ID, it is apparently true that far more legitimate registered voters are denied their right to vote than there are instances of voter impersonation. These laws cannot be justified on the basis of trying to prevent vote fraud.
 
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