War on Crime what is your opinion here!

[Epic Beard Man]

Very short and compelling videos. I encourage everyone have an open mind and share your thoughts after you see them:

These videos are clips from the movie "Bloods and Crips: Made in America" but I thought whoever did this editing was clever for a sociology project.

 

[BSM1]

Okay, I'll bite...opinion about what?

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

Good videos, but nothing I haven't seen before.

Where do gangs come from? Why do some many people choose that lifestyle?

I think it's quite simple. Man will always choose the path of least resistance to survive. You have a country with a failing economy. Low wages jobs are everywhere, but the cost of living continues to go up. You have a job market that requires you to have a decent education, but the cost of further education continues to rise. Not to mention that public education is disastrous and unfunded. Especially when school funding is based on the local taxes. So if your living a poor area like the one in the video your public school will be more broke then the rest. We also have a prison system that is directed towards punishment and not rehabilitation. don't forget no one is going to hire someone with a criminal record. So they always go back to the criminal lifestyle. This doesn't even go into the aspect of the family structure that the gang imitates for the subject.

It's simple if you want to lower gang related crimes. You have to lower the poverty rates in the country.

 

[Stanyon]

The war on crime is Allah's war against man's war against himself.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Okay, I'll bite...opinion about what?

My professor said there are no stupid questions but this.....Quite obviously the subject is about the war on crime and some of the opinions are compelling. Instead of a war on crime and incarcerating non-violent criminals or gang members we need opportunities for young people. Is such a war on crime working? These young men were less fortunate than me because at least my mother worked at a great job to move me away. Some of these men do not have that opportunity.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Good videos, but nothing I haven't seen before.

Where do gangs come from? Why do some many people choose that lifestyle?

To ask this question (which was answered in the videos) means you either skimmed through it or really wasn't paying attention. Lowering poverty rates is not just the answer, we need to change a biased system where everyone have an equal opportunity. But to answer your question look at the third videoo and the first guy will answer why he joined the gang..

 

[Epic Beard Man]

The war on crime is Allah's war against man's war against himself.

Dude just go away

 

[Nakosis]

Very short and compelling videos. I encourage everyone have an open mind and share your thoughts after you see them:

These videos are clips from the movie "Bloods and Crips: Made in America" but I thought whoever did this editing was clever for a sociology project.

This is Calif, one of the richest and most liberal states in the country. They want to spend a billion dollars on a train that no one will use.

Don't you think if they really wanted to fix this, they could?

I was fortunate in two things, white gangs are rare. Gangs are a culture and support system that feeds on itself. Once you're in, there is no where else to turn for support. Second, I lived in Colorado. They actually had a decent support system for troubled youth.

They are in a hole too deep to pull themselves out of and I don't see much willingness from the government to dig them out. There's a few people that do what they can. They care and do what they can. You are lucky if there happens to be a government program or individual that cares enough to do something. Just not enough to go around.

 

[Stanyon]

Dude just go away

You asked for opinions on an open forum, if you didn't want specific people to post in your thread then you should have named them. Geez.....

 

[Valjean]

#1. Good example of our innate tribalism and competitiveness. It's so intensely pleasurable we'll form completely pointless tribes just to enjoy the solidarity and warfare'

"Woofs and Pork Chops?!"

#2. War on drugs was a political scheme that, while it did get its proponents elected, its social effects were catastrophic. Packed jails, Abandoned neighborhoods with no legal job prospects. Systems designed to prevent X prisoners from integrating productively into society.
#3. Back to the Pleistocene. More tribalism.
#4. Short clips and talking points. Ideas need more development, as well as input from experts.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You can't fight crime, no more than you can fight drug abuse. Rather, you have to address the cause, and work towards mitigating the factors that contribute towards crime (and also drug abuse, as violence, crime, poverty, and drug abuse often walk together hand-in-hand).

 

[BSM1]

My professor said there are no stupid questions but this.....Quite obviously the subject is about the war on crime and some of the opinions are compelling. Instead of a war on crime and incarcerating non-violent criminals or gang members we need opportunities for young people. Is such a war on crime working? These young men were less fortunate than me because at least my mother worked at a great job to move me away. Some of these men do not have that opportunity.

Sooo...you think these videos are an indication of "war on crime" is simply an euphemism of a "war on a small minority of a minority who seem to make bad life choices as opposed to others of the same skin color and circumstance that don't wind up incarcerated because they broke the law"? Okay, no grey area here.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Sooo...you think these videos are an indication of "war on crime" is simply an euphemism of a "war on a small minority of a minority who seem to make bad life choices as opposed to others of the same skin color and circumstance that don't wind up incarcerated because they broke the law"? Okay, no grey area here.

These videos and their testimonies are indicative of a judicial system that is not really working and is creating a cyclical affect of violence. Bad life choices are not simply making one mistake or making one bad option, there are several cofounding things that can come into effect based on or more choices. It's easy for you to say "well don't break the law" since you failed to watch the video (or even if you did you lacked an open mind) it is pointless to further explain the chemistry behind recidivism and the psychology behind some of these young men doing crime.

 

[BSM1]

These videos and their testimonies are indicative of a judicial system that is not really working and is creating a cyclical affect of violence. Bad life choices are not simply making one mistake or making one bad option, there are several cofounding things that can come into effect based on or more choices. It's easy for you to say "well don't break the law" since you failed to watch the video (or even if you did you lacked an open mind) it is pointless to further explain the chemistry behind recidivism and the psychology behind some of these young men doing crime.

I did watch the videos and it seems you want to invoke situational apologetics to excuse personal behavior. How about requiring young men that may be living where social choices are not ideal to watch the videos and tell them, like a well known TV show character use to say, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I did watch the videos and it seems you want to invoke situational apologetics to excuse personal behavior. How about requiring young men that may be living where social choices are not ideal to watch the videos and tell them, like a well known TV show character use to say, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

I answered why it is important that we change the tactics in our law (e.g. decriminalizing drug offenses), but more importantly my intent is to show why young men choose a destructive path and why some of these men feel hopeless in choosing a constructive path. I asked people to look at the videos with an open mid, sorry if you failed in following my suggestion. the war on crime and drugs started long before I was born and we still have not won nor have we steered people away from the lifestyle. I thank God I was never charged with a felony or is a parolee and despite my intelligence and ability to go to school, many of these young men are still ostracized even after changing their lives. their inability to find work due to their past has continued to push many back into the drug game.

I'm not here to say what they're doing is wrong and they ought to be without blame, I'm merely showing why they do it and stating he facts that this so-called war on drugs and crime is a failure.

 

[BSM1]

I answered why it is important that we change the tactics in our law (e.g. decriminalizing drug offenses), but more importantly my intent is to show why young men choose a destructive path and why some of these men feel hopeless in choosing a constructive path. I asked people to look at the videos with an open mid, sorry if you failed in following my suggestion. the war on crime and drugs started long before I was born and we still have not won nor have we steered people away from the lifestyle. I thank God I was never charged with a felony or is a parolee and despite my intelligence and ability to go to school, many of these young men are still ostracized even after changing their lives. their inability to find work due to their past has continued to push many back into the drug game.

I'm not here to say what they're doing is wrong and they ought to be without blame, I'm merely showing why they do it and stating he facts that this so-called war on drugs and crime is a failure.

Uhhh...your open mind may not look like my open mind; maybe you should try to practice what you preach...just sayin'. I was there when the war on drugs started (Hippies were the targets then) and I agree it's been a straw man from day 2. However, this does not excuse anyone from accepting the responsibility or their own personal actions.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Uhhh...your open mind may not look like my open mind; maybe you should try to practice what you preach...just sayin'. I was there when the war on drugs started (Hippies were the targets then) and I agree it's been a straw man from day 2. However, this does not excuse anyone from accepting the responsibility or their own personal actions.

Nobody here nor I, excuse degenerate behavior. Sorry, I'm a progressive liberal and we tend to look at a wider spectrum of sorts when it comes to situations like this. The crack epidemic (which was mentioned in one of the videos) is what took flight and because the prime subject of incarcerating young men. But having an open mind is having an open mind it means to put your own personal biases to the side. You failed considering that you assume that I am trying to excuse behavior when I am not and I'm clearly stating here and now I am not. There is nothing excusable about being in a gang where you rob and kill people, I'm simply offering an understanding.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

To ask this question (which was answered in the videos) means you either skimmed through it or really wasn't paying attention. Lowering poverty rates is not just the answer, we need to change a biased system where everyone have an equal opportunity. But to answer your question look at the third videoo and the first guy will answer why he joined the gang..

Oh I thought we were suppose to give our answer. I watched all the videos. I really enjoyed them.