War: the Pope says that mankind is in danger; strive for peace

[blü 2]

Papa Francesco: umanità in grande pericolo, lottate per la pace


I think war is the most horrific thing that mankind has ever conceived. It is, darwinistically speaking, the most squalid and horrific emblem of involution.
Let's demonstrate we have evolved from that stage.
Let us reject war as instrument of getting peace. It is impossible. Peace is achieved through peace only.

No need for Francis to speak to me ─ I'm for peace.

If he'll go and chat up Vladimir, that might be the place to start.

 

[YoursTrue]

We humans can't seem to avoid war, because we humans simply do not see ourselves as all members of a single family. And because we do not hold our leaders -- for the most part -- accountable. The Pope, just for example, is there for life -- and when he decides to speak ex cathedra, it appears he's also "infallible." Donald Trump is deemed almost a god by an enormous number of Americans, which just boggles my mind. And the ideologies and weird beliefs we cling to, and how we fear those not quite like us, instead of getting to know them. The Pope says "peace" is the answer, I say "familiarity" is the answer. You cannot fear that with which you are familiar and understand.

I quote again from Carl Sagan, from "Pale Blue Dot," speaking about the earth as seen looking back towards the sun from Saturn, a tiny blue dot seen through one of Saturn's rings. The Earth is, he says, home to:

The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.

By the way, remember the earliest of human families, according to the Bible. Cain slew Abel. Started right almost at the beginning.

 

[Estro Felino]

No need for Francis to speak to me ─ I'm for peace.

If he'll go and chat up Vladimir, that might be the place to start.

If I had had the power, I would have gone to him on day one, trying to dissuade him.

 

[Truthseeker]

The Italian word used by the Pope means "with words".
He didn't mean "with weaponry".

I charge you all that each one of you concentrate all the thoughts of your heart on love and unity. When a thought of war comes, oppose it by a stronger thought of peace. A thought of hatred must be destroyed by a more powerful thought of love. Thoughts of war bring destruction to all harmony, well-being, restfulness and content.
(Abdu'l-Baha, Paris Talks, p. 29)

 

[blü 2]

If I had had the power, I would have gone to him on day one, trying to dissuade him.

Speak softly and carry whatever the Russian for 'Glock 17' is.

 

[Estro Felino]

I charge you all that each one of you concentrate all the thoughts of your heart on love and unity. When a thought of war comes, oppose it by a stronger thought of peace. A thought of hatred must be destroyed by a more powerful thought of love. Thoughts of war bring destruction to all harmony, well-being, restfulness and content.
(Abdu'l-Baha, Paris Talks, p. 29)

Thank you, very insightful.

 

[Estro Felino]

Speak softly and carry whatever the Russian for 'Glock 17' is.

The European Union has the juridical instruments to avoid the war. And especially the juridical staff to make the two belligerent parties negotiate.
They did nothing, On the contrary, they did anything to favor the continuation of the conflict, by pushing the so called servants of Brussels to send weapons to Ukraine. More weapons = more deaths = more retaliation = more days of war.



Someday many lawyers will bring all this to an international penal court.

 

[rational experiences]

Men own his story of predicting conscious change of the human mind living within our human heavens.

Non nuclear the advice. Holy water life.

Thinking of men proves it copies what has occurred before by his owned nuclear weaponry advice. Of man's scientific advices he theoried upon that had communicated to his thinking.

Russia hit twice by a satanic asteroid wanderer returned earth hit.

Men's theory how to blow up life on earth by nuclear mass advice. Minds consciousness bio health changed. Proven.

Human life warnings both psychic and science predictive known. And scientific predictive. Future earth returns nuclear attack. Man copies advices. A form of scientific possession.

Now imagine you are a spiritual leader. Humanity gets new conscious life attacked. About 1000 years ago. Conscious behaviour changes right then...dark age of thought emerge.

You held documented advices in a vault. Would you access it as proof...yes we already knew. To prove you knew it had been warned legal advice?

Just so you could waylay life's destruction on earth. In full wisdom why?

Especially when a testimony was legal. Book shut oath was truth by human law courts only?

Yes. As you were told don't read follow evil.

Yet here you are today all warned about evil human choices as written.

What other legal evidence do you need to act now before it is too late?

 

[Estro Felino]

A song of joy and peace

 

[RestlessSoul]

Speak softly and carry whatever the Russian for 'Glock 17' is.

Guns of peace? Like the ones so many Americans carry round with them, as they go about their daily business?

 

[Estro Felino]

Guns of peace? Like the ones so many Americans carry round with them, as they go about their daily business?

The difference between me and them is that I want no Ukrainian person and no Russian person to die. They want all Russians to die.
We all know who they is.

 

[RestlessSoul]

The difference between me and them is that I want no Ukrainian person and no Russian person to die. They want all Russians to die.
We all know who they is.

For hate is not conquered by hate. Hate is conquered by love. This is a law eternal.

Dhammapada vs 5

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

"Biological science can't adequately describe what poetry is" and "Thinking God exists means that God actually exists."

These two statements are interchangeable to you?



I disagree. In my view everything can (and in many cases ought to be) reduced to a physical explanation. But not all of those physical explanations are complete.

Yeah, the feeling of seeing a beautiful rose. And depending on what standard for evidence is claimed, that is real or not real.
You are say that there is more. If there is more you have to give evidence according to the standard of evidence for physical, but you haven't.

That there is more, but not giving evidence, is no different than saying there is a God, but not giving evidence. Formally they are the same as that there is X, but not giving evidence.

 

[ajay0]

The Italian word used by the Pope means "with words".
He didn't mean "with weaponry".

Yes, with dialogue and mutual understanding. Dalai lama has also emphasized dialogue to resolve conflict.

Hope for Dialogue to Restore Peace in Ukraine | The 14th Dalai Lama

Problems and disagreements are best resolved through dialogue. Genuine peace comes about through mutual understanding and respect for each other’s wellbeing.

We must not lose hope. The 20th century was a century of war and bloodshed. The 21st century must be a century of dialogue. ~ Dalai Lama

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Papa Francesco: umanità in grande pericolo, lottate per la pace

I think war is the most horrific thing that mankind has ever conceived. It is, darwinistically speaking, the most squalid and horrific emblem of involution.
Let's demonstrate we have evolved from that stage.
Let us reject war as instrument of getting peace. It is impossible. Peace is achieved through peace only.

Baha'u'llah offered in the 1800's.

"The time must come when the imperative necessity for the holding of a vast, an all-embracing assemblage of men will be universally realized. The rulers and kings of the earth must needs attend it, and, participating in its deliberations, must consider such ways and means as will lay the foundations of the world’s Great Peace amongst men. Such a peace demandeth that the Great Powers should resolve, for the sake of the tranquillity of the peoples of the earth, to be fully reconciled among themselves. Should any king take up arms against another, all should unitedly arise and prevent him. If this be done, the nations of the world will no longer require any armaments, except for the purpose of preserving the security of their realms and of maintaining internal order within their territories. This will ensure the peace and composure of every people, government and nation. We fain would hope that the kings and rulers of the earth, the mirrors of the gracious and almighty name of God, may attain unto this station, and shield mankind from the onslaught of tyranny."

There is much more offered also. One of those things is setting the boundaries of each Nation.

Regards Tony

 

[muhammad_isa]

..On the contrary, they did anything to favor the continuation of the conflict, by pushing the so called servants of Brussels to send weapons to Ukraine. More weapons = more deaths = more retaliation = more days of war.

..but Russia, supported by Belarus, invaded Ukraine !
One cannot forgive without repentance.

Putin is not repentant, he holds fake referendums and defies international law.

Anyhow, armageddon will happen, despite our efforts to make peace.
The head of the Russian Orthodox church suggests that the antichrist is at the head of the worldwide web [internet].
i.e. the west

What is prophesised will come to be.
Russia and China appear to be Gog and Magog.

 

[rational experiences]

..but Russia, supported by Belarus, invaded Ukraine !
One cannot forgive without repentance.

Putin is not repentant, he holds fake referendums and defies international law.

Anyhow, armageddon will happen, despite our efforts to make peace.
The head of the Russian Orthodox church suggests that the antichrist is at the head of the worldwide web [internet].
i.e. the west

What is prophesised will come to be.
Russia and China appear to be Gog and Magog.

Any human should ask Putin how did you feel given a cancer death sentence?

Did it touch any human compassion within your mind or are you just devoid of it now?

As if you challenge a human as their highest natural right it's as a healer does.

How about the rest of you men with an armoury ready to fight. Where's your families compassion?

 

[Aupmanyav]

OP: And how to do that? Arm Ukraine to fight Russia. A sure-shot way to end war. That Ukraine might be obliterated in the process does not matter.

 

[blü 2]

The European Union has the juridical instruments to avoid the war. And especially the juridical staff to make the two belligerent parties negotiate.
They did nothing, On the contrary, they did anything to favor the continuation of the conflict, by pushing the so called servants of Brussels to send weapons to Ukraine. More weapons = more deaths = more retaliation = more days of war.

As I see it, they have neither authority nor realistic power to call Russia to account.

And the consequence of not assisting Ukraine in every possible way is to vindicate Putin's aggression as a useful way for achieving your aims, however improper in the eyes of international law.

So with respect I strongly disagree with the view you propose.

 

[blü 2]

Guns of peace? Like the ones so many Americans carry round with them, as they go about their daily business?

Ah, a volunteer! Here, all unarmed, take this warrant to Putin in the Kremlin and arrest him and bring him back to the Hague. The charges are in that large book attached to the warrant.

Good luck!