Was Jesus born on Christmas?

[Spiderman]

So if Jesus was born in late December.....ouch! I mean...would be so traumatic if not life threatening for a child I would think. I mean the warmest I'd think it would have been at such in the middle of the night in late December would have been 30 degrees.

Im assuming Israel is warmer than Minnesota where I'm from but still cold in late December.

 

[Desert Snake]

I've read april, or thereabouts.

 

[Woodrow LI]

We not know what month Jesus(as) was born in, but it is almost certain it was not December.

 

[Spiderman]

Does the Koran say he was born of a virgin in a stable?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So if Jesus was born in late December.....ouch! I mean...to come out of your mother, wet and naked, in the freezing cold...would be so traumatic if not life threatening for a child I would think. I mean the warmest I'd think it would have been at such in the middle of the night in late December would have been 30 degrees.

Im assuming Israel is warmer than Minnesota where I'm from but still cold in late December.

Does the Koran say he was born of a virgin in a stable?

Do you have a point or are you just trolling?

 

[Spiderman]

OH...just wondering....if historically there is any indication from historians about when Jesus was born. I mean usssually historians know when the people that change the world are born.

 

[Spiderman]

Not always but often they do

we know alexander the great was born in July

Julias Caesar July 12

Cleopatra October 69 bc

I take that back though...with many ancient historical figures we only know the year

 

[Woodrow LI]

Does the Koran say he was born of a virgin in a stable?

The Qur'an says he was born of a virgin beneath a date palm tree

 

[Spiderman]

Does Islam believe that the Jews were at one time God's chosen people?

 

[Woodrow LI]

Christmas originally Christ's Mass was not celebrated in the first 300 years of Christianity and after that different churches celebrated it on different dates,

The Bible offers few clues: Celebrations of Jesus’ Nativity are not mentioned in the Gospels or Acts; the date is not given, not even the time of year. The biblical reference to shepherds tending their flocks at night when they hear the news of Jesus’ birth (Luke 2:8) might suggest the spring lambing season; in the cold month of December, on the other hand, sheep might well have been corralled. Yet most scholars would urge caution about extracting such a precise but incidental detail from a narrative whose focus is theological rather than calendrical.

The extrabiblical evidence from the first and second century is equally spare: There is no mention of birth celebrations in the writings of early Christian writers such as Irenaeus (c. 130–200) or Tertullian (c. 160–225). Origen of Alexandria (c. 165–264) goes so far as to mock Roman celebrations of birth anniversaries, dismissing them as “pagan” practices—a strong indication that Jesus’ birth was not marked with similar festivities at that place and time.1 As far as we can tell, Christmas was not celebrated at all at this point.
SOURCE How December 25 Became Christmas – Biblical Archaeology Society

Christmas as we now know it did not become established until the 1800s

The German people had an enormous part to play in shaping Christmas into the form we know and love today. One of the beneficiaries of the German love of Christmas was Victorian England. Victoria assumed the throne in 1837 at the age of eighteen; three years later she married Prince Albert who became Prince Consort. Prince Albert, being of German descent, brought with him to England many of the wonderful Christmas traditions of his homeland. Christmas soon became a special occasion for the Royal Family; their celebration of it emphasized the importance of family closeness and an appreciation of children, and revived the idea of the holiday meal and holiday decorations. In 1841 Prince Albert introduced the first Christmas tree to Windsor Castle; he was largely responsible for the later popularity of Christmas trees in England. Since Victoria and her family held an astonishing popularity with the British, much of what they did was widely emulated. Newspapers and magazines such as The Illustrated London News provided a ready audience with chronicles of the royals' activities. Anything seen in the castle was soon copied in homes throughout the country, providing the English Christmas with a much-needed boost.

Gradually, over the course of Victoria's reign, the tide turned. Christmas once more had an important place in English life.
SOURCE December 25 Wasn't the First Choice for Christmas Day | Lone Star's Christmas Connection

Over all there is no historical or biblical record as to when Jesus(as) was born

 

[Woodrow LI]

Does Islam believe that the Jews were at one time God's chosen people?

yes

at least for as long as they followed the prophets. but they stopped at the time of the birth of Jesus

 

[Kolibri]

I was just looking at this yesterday. Most likely he was born in early October. There are a couple reasons for figuring this. For one he was about 30 years old when he was baptized and his died 3 1/2 years later in March/April of 33 C.E.

There is a more convoluted way of figuring it by looking at the timing of when Zechariah (John the Baptist's father) would have been serving as a priest in the assignment of his division (Abijah) and the 6 mos difference between John and Jesus' births.

But another more reasonable reason why it could not be December is the fact that there was a registration going on and that there were shepherds out in the fields with their sheep overnight. The registration would have had all the Jews traveling in the mid of winter, and they were none too happy about being under Rome's thumb to begin with. A mid-winter forced travel for all would have been asking for a revolt.
For the 2nd reason:
When Was Jesus Born? | Bible Questions
/quote
The book Daily Life in the Time of Jesus notes that flocks lived in the open air from “the week before the Passover [late March]” through mid-November. It then adds: “They passed the winter under cover; and from this alone it may be seen that the traditional date for Christmas, in the winter, is unlikely to be right, since the Gospel says that the shepherds were in the fields.”
/endquote

 

[George-ananda]

I'm not sure of your point. I'm sure Eskimos have babies in December too.

 

[Spiderman]

I'm not sure of your point. I'm sure Eskimos have babies in December too.

Yeah....they probably have more than swaddling clothes...but you make a good point

 

[ChristineES]

I've heard both April and October, that Jesus may have been born in.

 

[Woodrow LI]

I've heard both April and October, that Jesus may have been born in.

They are both strong possibilities as it is almost certain there would be shepherds tending herds during those months.

The only hint we have to the time of year is there were shepherds out tending sheep. This would not occur from November-March as the sheep would be confined in corrals.

April it is certain there would be shepherds tending as the ewe would be giving birth to lambs and be vulnerable to predators.

October is another month it would be certain Shepherds would be out tending the flocks as they would be in the process of moving them to the corrals for the coming winter.

 

[Blackmarch]

So if Jesus was born in late December.....ouch! I mean...would be so traumatic if not life threatening for a child I would think. I mean the warmest I'd think it would have been at such in the middle of the night in late December would have been 30 degrees.

Im assuming Israel is warmer than Minnesota where I'm from but still cold in late December.

I've seen decent explanations for both December and for April. I tend to be inclined more towards April.

 

[Wharton]

So if Jesus was born in late December.....ouch! I mean...would be so traumatic if not life threatening for a child I would think. I mean the warmest I'd think it would have been at such in the middle of the night in late December would have been 30 degrees.

Im assuming Israel is warmer than Minnesota where I'm from but still cold in late December.

It's when the church celebrates the feast. The feast of John the Baptist is in summer when light begins to decrease ( Scripture:I must decrease while he increases). The feast of Christmas is celebrated when light begins to increase.

 

[Pegg]

So if Jesus was born in late December.....ouch! I mean...would be so traumatic if not life threatening for a child I would think. I mean the warmest I'd think it would have been at such in the middle of the night in late December would have been 30 degrees.

Im assuming Israel is warmer than Minnesota where I'm from but still cold in late December.

Israel in december is very cold. Its winter at that time of the year over there.

 

[Shiranui117]

It's when the church celebrates the feast. The feast of John the Baptist is in summer when light begins to decrease ( Scripture:I must decrease while he increases). The feast of Christmas is celebrated when light begins to increase.

Mind=blown. Where did you learn that?