Was the earth/physical universe creates on the first day?

[Whoitbe]

Where does it state that the earth was created I'm the beginning?

Every single Christian bible states the following:

"In the beginning, GOD created the heavens and the earth."

Translated from masoretic text:

1. In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.

This is Rashis commentary on the text;

In the beginning of God’s creation of: Heb. בְּרֵאשִית בָּרָא. This verse calls for a midrashic interpretation [because according to its simple interpretation, the vowelization of the word בָּרָא, should be different, as Rashi explains further]. It teaches us that the sequence of the Creation as written is impossible, as is written immediately below] as our Rabbis stated (Letters of R. Akiva , letter “beth” ; Gen. Rabbah 1:6; Lev. Rabbah 36:4): [God created the world] for the sake of the Torah, which is called (Prov. 8:22): “the beginning of His way,” and for the sake of Israel, who are called (Jer. 2:3) “the first of His grain.” But if you wish to explain it according to its simple meaning, explain it thus: “At the beginning of the creation of heaven and earth, the earth was astonishing with emptiness, and darkness…and God said, ‘Let there be light.’” But Scripture did not come to teach the sequence of the Creation, to say that these came first, for if it came to teach this, it should have written:“At first (בָּרִאשׁוֹנָ&#1492 He created the heavens and the earth,” for there is no רֵאשִׁית in Scripture that is not connected to the following word, [i.e., in the construct state] like (ibid. 27:1):“In the beginning of (בְּרֵאשִי&#1514 the reign of Jehoiakim” ; (below 10:10)“the beginning of (רֵאשִׁי&#1514 his reign” ; (Deut. 18:4)“the first (רֵאשִׁי&#1514 of your corn.” Here too, you say בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אלֹהִים, like בְּרֵאשִׁית בְּרֹא, in the beginning of creating. And similar to this is,“At the beginning of the Lord’s speaking (דִּבֶּ&#1512 to Hosea,” (Hos. 1:2), i.e., at the beginning of the speaking (דִּבּוּרו&#1465 of the Holy One, Blessed be He, to Hosea, “the Lord said to Hosea, etc.” Now if you say that it came to teach that these (i.e., heaven and earth) were created first, and that its meaning is: In the beginning of all, He created these-and that there are elliptical verses that omit one word, like (Job 3:9): “For [He] did not shut the doors of my [mother’s] womb,” and it does not explain who it was who shut [the womb]; and like (Isa. 8:4): “he will carry off the wealth of Damascus,” and it does not explain who will carry it off; and like (Amos 6:12): “or will one plow with cattle,” and it does not explain: “if a man will plow with cattle” ; and like (Isa. 46: 10): “telling the end from the beginning,” and it does not explain that [it means] telling the end of a matter from the beginning of a matter-if so, [if you say that Scripture indicates the order of creation] be astounded at yourself, for the water preceded, as it is written: “and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the water,” and Scripture did not yet disclose when the creation of water took place! From this you learn that the water preceded the earth. Moreover, the heavens were created from fire and water. Perforce, you must admit that Scripture did not teach us anything about the sequence of the earlier and the later [acts of creation].


What does this imply? The earth was not the first thing created. Or you could possibly extend this to the physical universe, I.e. Heavens. Do you object?

 

[Youtellme]

Where does it state that the earth was created I'm the beginning?

Every single Christian bible states the following:

"In the beginning, GOD created the heavens and the earth."

Translated from masoretic text:

1. In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.

This is Rashis commentary on the text;

In the beginning of God’s creation of: Heb. בְּרֵאשִית בָּרָא. This verse calls for a midrashic interpretation [because according to its simple interpretation, the vowelization of the word בָּרָא, should be different, as Rashi explains further]. It teaches us that the sequence of the Creation as written is impossible, as is written immediately below] as our Rabbis stated (Letters of R. Akiva , letter “beth” ; Gen. Rabbah 1:6; Lev. Rabbah 36:4): [God created the world] for the sake of the Torah, which is called (Prov. 8:22): “the beginning of His way,” and for the sake of Israel, who are called (Jer. 2:3) “the first of His grain.” But if you wish to explain it according to its simple meaning, explain it thus: “At the beginning of the creation of heaven and earth, the earth was astonishing with emptiness, and darkness…and God said, ‘Let there be light.’” But Scripture did not come to teach the sequence of the Creation, to say that these came first, for if it came to teach this, it should have written:“At first (בָּרִאשׁוֹנָ&#1492 He created the heavens and the earth,” for there is no רֵאשִׁית in Scripture that is not connected to the following word, [i.e., in the construct state] like (ibid. 27:1):“In the beginning of (בְּרֵאשִי&#1514 the reign of Jehoiakim” ; (below 10:10)“the beginning of (רֵאשִׁי&#1514 his reign” ; (Deut. 18:4)“the first (רֵאשִׁי&#1514 of your corn.” Here too, you say בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אלֹהִים, like בְּרֵאשִׁית בְּרֹא, in the beginning of creating. And similar to this is,“At the beginning of the Lord’s speaking (דִּבֶּ&#1512 to Hosea,” (Hos. 1:2), i.e., at the beginning of the speaking (דִּבּוּרו&#1465 of the Holy One, Blessed be He, to Hosea, “the Lord said to Hosea, etc.” Now if you say that it came to teach that these (i.e., heaven and earth) were created first, and that its meaning is: In the beginning of all, He created these-and that there are elliptical verses that omit one word, like (Job 3:9): “For [He] did not shut the doors of my [mother’s] womb,” and it does not explain who it was who shut [the womb]; and like (Isa. 8:4): “he will carry off the wealth of Damascus,” and it does not explain who will carry it off; and like (Amos 6:12): “or will one plow with cattle,” and it does not explain: “if a man will plow with cattle” ; and like (Isa. 46: 10): “telling the end from the beginning,” and it does not explain that [it means] telling the end of a matter from the beginning of a matter-if so, [if you say that Scripture indicates the order of creation] be astounded at yourself, for the water preceded, as it is written: “and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the water,” and Scripture did not yet disclose when the creation of water took place! From this you learn that the water preceded the earth. Moreover, the heavens were created from fire and water. Perforce, you must admit that Scripture did not teach us anything about the sequence of the earlier and the later [acts of creation].


What does this imply? The earth was not the first thing created. Or you could possibly extend this to the physical universe, I.e. Heavens. Do you object?

I believe it simply means that in the beginning, ie when time began just after the big bang, that he created the entire universe which came to include the earth.

 

[12jtartar]

Where does it state that the earth was created I'm the beginning?

Every single Christian bible states the following:

"In the beginning, GOD created the heavens and the earth."

Translated from masoretic text:

1. In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.

This is Rashis commentary on the text;

In the beginning of God’s creation of: Heb. בְּרֵאשִית בָּרָא. This verse calls for a midrashic interpretation [because according to its simple interpretation, the vowelization of the word בָּרָא, should be different, as Rashi explains further]. It teaches us that the sequence of the Creation as written is impossible, as is written immediately below] as our Rabbis stated (Letters of R. Akiva , letter “beth” ; Gen. Rabbah 1:6; Lev. Rabbah 36:4): [God created the world] for the sake of the Torah, which is called (Prov. 8:22): “the beginning of His way,” and for the sake of Israel, who are called (Jer. 2:3) “the first of His grain.” But if you wish to explain it according to its simple meaning, explain it thus: “At the beginning of the creation of heaven and earth, the earth was astonishing with emptiness, and darkness…and God said, ‘Let there be light.’” But Scripture did not come to teach the sequence of the Creation, to say that these came first, for if it came to teach this, it should have written:“At first (בָּרִאשׁוֹנָ&#1492 He created the heavens and the earth,” for there is no רֵאשִׁית in Scripture that is not connected to the following word, [i.e., in the construct state] like (ibid. 27:1):“In the beginning of (בְּרֵאשִי&#1514 the reign of Jehoiakim” ; (below 10:10)“the beginning of (רֵאשִׁי&#1514 his reign” ; (Deut. 18:4)“the first (רֵאשִׁי&#1514 of your corn.” Here too, you say בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אלֹהִים, like בְּרֵאשִׁית בְּרֹא, in the beginning of creating. And similar to this is,“At the beginning of the Lord’s speaking (דִּבֶּ&#1512 to Hosea,” (Hos. 1:2), i.e., at the beginning of the speaking (דִּבּוּרו&#1465 of the Holy One, Blessed be He, to Hosea, “the Lord said to Hosea, etc.” Now if you say that it came to teach that these (i.e., heaven and earth) were created first, and that its meaning is: In the beginning of all, He created these-and that there are elliptical verses that omit one word, like (Job 3:9): “For [He] did not shut the doors of my [mother’s] womb,” and it does not explain who it was who shut [the womb]; and like (Isa. 8:4): “he will carry off the wealth of Damascus,” and it does not explain who will carry it off; and like (Amos 6:12): “or will one plow with cattle,” and it does not explain: “if a man will plow with cattle” ; and like (Isa. 46: 10): “telling the end from the beginning,” and it does not explain that [it means] telling the end of a matter from the beginning of a matter-if so, [if you say that Scripture indicates the order of creation] be astounded at yourself, for the water preceded, as it is written: “and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the water,” and Scripture did not yet disclose when the creation of water took place! From this you learn that the water preceded the earth. Moreover, the heavens were created from fire and water. Perforce, you must admit that Scripture did not teach us anything about the sequence of the earlier and the later [acts of creation].


What does this imply? The earth was not the first thing created. Or you could possibly extend this to the physical universe, I.e. Heavens. Do you object?

Whoitbe,
You have surely gone to extremes to try to prove something that is silly. Science has been able to prove that the earth is 4 to 5 billion years old. Science and logic proves that much of the universe is much older than earth. Physical laws would not allow us to see most of the universe, because the light would not have reached us if they were not much older, so that time would allow the light to reach us.
When so many Bible schalors that had excellent knowledge of The Hebrew language, and are in agreement about what the Scriptures actually say, what is your motive for your unbelief??? Could it be that you just cannot believe, or are willfully blind??
The first Scripture of the Hebrew Scriptures makes a statement about the creation of the heavens and the earth. The Bible agrees exactly with true science, much of the heavens was created long before the earth. The time between the creation of the heavens and earth is called, The Gap Theory. The second Scripture in Genesis starts the beginning of the preparing of the earth for life. God used a period of 6 days to prepare the earth, called the Hexaemeron.
It is only logical that each of these days would be the same length. In the Bible, the word day has several meanings, 24 hours, also the time of daylight a day. Day can also just mean a period of time, Genesis 2:4 where God spoke of of the great time of His creation of heaven and earth as a day. Several times the Bible mentions that, to God a thousand years is as a day, Psalms 90:4, 2Peter 3:8.
Since a day can be many years, do we know just how long each of the creative days were??? YES!!! Since, according to the Bible Chronology Adam was created at 4,026 BCE. That means that in 1975 mankind was on earth 6,000 years. Since I the last part of this last, seventh day will be The Thousand Year Judgment Day, Revelation 20:1-9. That makes this last day of the creative week 7,000 years long. So each of the creative days were, logically 7,000 years long. After The Thousand Year Judgment Day, which is the Millennial Reign of Christ, will bring the earth back to a perfect condition, and the people who survive the Great Tribulation, and the billions resurrected during that time will grow perfect also. Then we will be in The Jubilee year the corresponded to the Jubilee time of the old Isrealite nation, Leviticus 25:8-15. Instead of the weeks being seven days, as for the Jews, the days are 7,000 years long. We are living in the last day of the creative week. God created everything in 6 Days, then God rested on the 7 day, and God has rested from any more created things on earth. God has always been working, but He is resting concerning earth, John 5:17.

 

[Thief]

Where does it state that the earth was created I'm the beginning?

Every single Christian bible states the following:

"In the beginning, GOD created the heavens and the earth."

Translated from masoretic text:

1. In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.

This is Rashis commentary on the text;

In the beginning of God’s creation of: Heb. בְּרֵאשִית בָּרָא. This verse calls for a midrashic interpretation [because according to its simple interpretation, the vowelization of the word בָּרָא, should be different, as Rashi explains further]. It teaches us that the sequence of the Creation as written is impossible, as is written immediately below] as our Rabbis stated (Letters of R. Akiva , letter “beth” ; Gen. Rabbah 1:6; Lev. Rabbah 36:4): [God created the world] for the sake of the Torah, which is called (Prov. 8:22): “the beginning of His way,” and for the sake of Israel, who are called (Jer. 2:3) “the first of His grain.” But if you wish to explain it according to its simple meaning, explain it thus: “At the beginning of the creation of heaven and earth, the earth was astonishing with emptiness, and darkness…and God said, ‘Let there be light.’” But Scripture did not come to teach the sequence of the Creation, to say that these came first, for if it came to teach this, it should have written:“At first (בָּרִאשׁוֹנָ&#1492 He created the heavens and the earth,” for there is no רֵאשִׁית in Scripture that is not connected to the following word, [i.e., in the construct state] like (ibid. 27:1):“In the beginning of (בְּרֵאשִי&#1514 the reign of Jehoiakim” ; (below 10:10)“the beginning of (רֵאשִׁי&#1514 his reign” ; (Deut. 18:4)“the first (רֵאשִׁי&#1514 of your corn.” Here too, you say בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אלֹהִים, like בְּרֵאשִׁית בְּרֹא, in the beginning of creating. And similar to this is,“At the beginning of the Lord’s speaking (דִּבֶּ&#1512 to Hosea,” (Hos. 1:2), i.e., at the beginning of the speaking (דִּבּוּרו&#1465 of the Holy One, Blessed be He, to Hosea, “the Lord said to Hosea, etc.” Now if you say that it came to teach that these (i.e., heaven and earth) were created first, and that its meaning is: In the beginning of all, He created these-and that there are elliptical verses that omit one word, like (Job 3:9): “For [He] did not shut the doors of my [mother’s] womb,” and it does not explain who it was who shut [the womb]; and like (Isa. 8:4): “he will carry off the wealth of Damascus,” and it does not explain who will carry it off; and like (Amos 6:12): “or will one plow with cattle,” and it does not explain: “if a man will plow with cattle” ; and like (Isa. 46: 10): “telling the end from the beginning,” and it does not explain that [it means] telling the end of a matter from the beginning of a matter-if so, [if you say that Scripture indicates the order of creation] be astounded at yourself, for the water preceded, as it is written: “and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the water,” and Scripture did not yet disclose when the creation of water took place! From this you learn that the water preceded the earth. Moreover, the heavens were created from fire and water. Perforce, you must admit that Scripture did not teach us anything about the sequence of the earlier and the later [acts of creation].


What does this imply? The earth was not the first thing created. Or you could possibly extend this to the physical universe, I.e. Heavens. Do you object?

that's an unusual opening you have here.....

and yeah the literal script is confusing to modern day believers
we grew up with a different view of the heavens and the earth
our ancestors hardly knew anything that we now consider real and sure

(some people likely thought the stars to be candles held steadfast by the angels!)

I read Genesis to pronounce a firmament
and then the first creation.....Light....

separating the earth and water came much later