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Washington State to Secure 30k Doses of Mifepristone

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LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
...before a Texas judge reverses the FDA approval of the drug. People may need to come to Washington state to get aftercare for miscarriages if other states don't follow suit. It's not just for abortions.
 

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LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
A Texas Federal Judge rules to roll back FDA approval of mifepristone, while in a separate case, a Washington State Federal Judge rules it is safe and effective.

A federal judge in Texas blocked U.S. government approval of a key abortion medication Friday, siding with abortion foes in an unprecedented lawsuit and potentially upending nationwide access to the pill widely used to terminate pregnancies.

In a competing opinion late Friday, a federal judge in Washington state ruled in a separate case involving mifepristone that the drug is safe and effective. He ordered the Food and Drug Administration to preserve “the status quo” and retain access in the more than a dozen states behind the lawsuit seeking to protect medication abortion.

It seems inevitable the issue will move to the Supreme Court, and the dueling opinions and appeals could make that sooner rather than later.

The highly anticipated ruling from Texas puts on hold the FDA’s approval of mifepristone, a medication first cleared for use in the United States in 2000. The ruling will not go into effect for seven days to give the government time to appeal.


States that want to secure the drug to at least treat women who have miscarriages have one week to get the drug while they can.
 
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F1fan

Veteran Member
A Texas Federal Judge rules to roll back FDA approval of mifepristone, while in a separate case, a Washington State Federal Judge rules it is safe and effective.
A federal judge in Texas blocked U.S. government approval of a key abortion medication Friday, siding with abortion foes in an unprecedented lawsuit and potentially upending nationwide access to the pill widely used to terminate pregnancies.​
In a competing opinion late Friday, a federal judge in Washington state ruled in a separate case involving mifepristone that the drug is safe and effective. He ordered the Food and Drug Administration to preserve “the status quo” and retain access in the more than a dozen states behind the lawsuit seeking to protect medication abortion.​
It seems inevitable the issue will move to the Supreme Court, and the dueling opinions and appeals could make that sooner rather than later.​
The highly anticipated ruling from Texas puts on hold the FDA’s approval of mifepristone, a medication first cleared for use in the United States in 2000. The ruling will not go into effect for seven days to give the government time to appeal.​

States that want to secure the drug to at least treat women who have miscarriages have one week to get the drug while they can.
Frankly I can't believe he went for it. According to reports the judge didn't use common medical terms, like fetus, and instead use the phrase "unborn human". This is sloppy and highly biased. The US government has 7 days to respond, which it will do, and challenge this ruling. I'm sure there will be a stay on the ruling until the ban is resolved in the Supreme Court. But this might be the hopes of conservatives, that the SC will back the Texas ruling, and then put a further hurdle on women and their reproductive freedom. I can't see this being a winning move for republicans.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What about all the miscarrying women being denied medical treatment right now? Is this sort of collateral damage acceptable?
I would say no, but there may not be much that the Democrats can do unless they have control of both the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. The Supreme Court is going to be corrupt for quite some time.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
What about all the miscarrying women being denied medical treatment right now? Is this sort of collateral damage acceptable?
Ask republicans, this is the draconian world they want America to be. Their ideals have no answers for reality. Frankly if women die it's just collateral to them. It's no worse than the children who die in schools, it's just the cost of "freedom" in the conservative ideal (that is irrational and doesn't work). I've said for years now that republicans need to keep going more extreme before America hits bottom and the conservative voter has a rude awakening. It's going to get worse, we are no where near the bottom of where republicans are willing to go. My prediction is 2024 is going to be nuts. It will make Jan 6 2021 look like a picnic.

I'm confident the US government will appeal, so this ruling will be nothing more than conservative insanity in headlines.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Ask republicans, this is the draconian world they want America to be. Their ideals have no answers for reality. Frankly if women die it's just collateral to them. It's no worse than the children who die in schools, it's just the cost of "freedom" in the conservative ideal (that is irrational and doesn't work). I've said for years now that republicans need to keep going more extreme before America hits bottom and the conservative voter has a rude awakening. It's going to get worse, we are no where near the bottom of where republicans are willing to go. My prediction is 2024 is going to be nuts. It will make Jan 6 2021 look like a picnic.

I'm confident the US government will appeal, so this ruling will be nothing more than conservative insanity in headlines.
With conflicting federal judge rulings on the drug,
this looks headed for SCOTUS. And that bunch
(the majority) is likely to rule based upon personal
opposition to abortion.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
With conflicting federal judge rulings on the drug,
this looks headed for SCOTUS. And that bunch
(the majority) is likely to rule based upon personal
opposition to abortion.

The Texas judge was Trump appointed.

In the SCOTUS, of the 9 justices, 6 were appointed by a republican president, and 3 were appointed by a Democratic president

So there's that little issue......
 

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LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Ask republicans, this is the draconian world they want America to be. Their ideals have no answers for reality. Frankly if women die it's just collateral to them. It's no worse than the children who die in schools, it's just the cost of "freedom" in the conservative ideal (that is irrational and doesn't work). I've said for years now that republicans need to keep going more extreme before America hits bottom and the conservative voter has a rude awakening. It's going to get worse, we are no where near the bottom of where republicans are willing to go. My prediction is 2024 is going to be nuts. It will make Jan 6 2021 look like a picnic.

I'm confident the US government will appeal, so this ruling will be nothing more than conservative insanity in headlines.
What happens when it's their wives and daughters who are denied treatment for a miscarriage and they lose their fertility or get permanent damage from sepsis or even die? Will they just stick their heads in the sand--just as when their parents and grandparents were dying from COVID? Will it become another "Oh, we don't talk about that" phenomenon?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
What happens when it's their wives and daughters who are denied treatment for a miscarriage and they lose their fertility or get permanent damage from sepsis or even die? Will they just stick their heads in the sand--just as when their parents and grandparents were dying from COVID? Will it become another "Oh, we don't talk about that" phenomenon?
Unfortunately yes. If this is not overturned in court the Democrats will try to do something in Congress. The problem is that in the Senate the Republicans have the ability to filibuster a bill to death. There is a chance that some Republicans will remember what happened in Kansas.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What happens when it's their wives and daughters who are denied treatment for a miscarriage and they lose their fertility or get permanent damage from sepsis or even die? Will they just stick their heads in the sand--just as when their parents and grandparents were dying from COVID? Will it become another "Oh, we don't talk about that" phenomenon?
Justices live in a rarefied world. Many begin life that way.
And those who didn't, soon become ensconced in it.
They've money, options, & are largely above the laws
they apply to the rest of us. (They don't even have an
ethics code, unlike other federal judges.) So perhaps
they've the luxury of beliefs that aren't tempered by
the reality experienced by the masses.

Brett Kavanaugh & Neil Gorsuch, who voted against
the right to abortion, both have 2 young daughters.
Perhaps if one dies because she was denied needed
medical care....only then will reality come crashing
into ideology.
 
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It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
What about all the miscarrying women being denied medical treatment right now? Is this sort of collateral damage acceptable?
You can answer that for yourself. Yes, it's acceptable to them. After how many women have died will they rethink this? The answer is the same as the number of murdered children that it will take for the conservatives to reverse themselves on gun control - never. They just don't care, and nobody can make them care or shame them.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'm mildly surprised that SCOTUS got involved
so quickly (appropriate), & ruled as they did
(also appropriate).
I am betting that there is a highly place Republican operative somewhere yelling "Shut up! Shut up! SHUT UP!!!" I just heard on the news how the voters in swing states are definitely disgusted with the Republican abortion shenanigans and are flipping over to a Democratic stance. It is beginning to look so bad for the Republicans that Hillary might have a chance of winning.
 
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