Watchtower Governing Body: Are They The Exclusive Channel For God??

[djhwoodwerks]

I think it was Moses.

Jesus put an end to the Mosaic law. So if abstaining from blood was high on the sin chart, wouldn't it be in the commandments God wrote in stone? And wouldn't they think Jesus would have taught it? At least He would have mentioned it.

 

[savagewind]

Christians teaching about what Paul taught is teaching about what Jesus taught Paul to teach. .

JWs trusting that they know to trust men is no different than you trusting "Paul taught what Jesus taught Paul to teach". It's the same.

 

[Awoon]

Christians teaching about what Paul taught is teaching about what Jesus taught Paul to teach. JW's teach more about apostasy, armaggedon, paradise earth, Christendom, the eternal sin of not using God's personal name, the sin of not going door to door than they do about Jesus.

This is getting old. The battle of the Bible scriptures. JWs teach fear mongering as does Christendom. Exclusive clubs/cults that bind humans to ancient beliefs that the leaders cant Demonstrate. Raise some dead, walk on some water, levitate off the Freedom Tower. Then people wont have to be worried about any end time or armaggeden. We'll know it is here.

 

[savagewind]

Jesus put an end to the Mosaic law. So if abstaining from blood was high on the sin chart, wouldn't it be in the commandments God wrote in stone? And wouldn't they think Jesus would have taught it? At least He would have mentioned it.

You lost me.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

"Dead in Sin" means NOTHING to me. No Sin can separate any Human from an Omnipotent/Omniscient Spirit. If that is possible then there is Not an Omnipotent/Omniscient Spirit anywhere. Now it's up to you and you alone to decide for yourself which words of which ancient writing can SAVE you.

Religious trappings have you believing you are separate and need "saved" from something for something. Well I'll agree, you are saved to be a slave to the Christian religion that uses an ancient Semitic book and God that it adopted as their own.

So Pauls teachings hold no meaning at all?

 

[savagewind]

This is getting old. The battle of the Bible scriptures. JWs teach fear mongering as does Christendom. Exclusive clubs/cults that bind humans to ancient beliefs that the leaders cant Demonstrate. Raise some dead, walk on some water, levitate off the Freedom Tower. Then people wont have to be worried about any end time or armaggeden. We'll know it is here.

Might the battle of Bible Scripture be Armageddon?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

JWs trusting that they know to trust men is no different than you trusting "Paul taught what Jesus taught Paul to teach". It's the same.

Lol, Pauls teachings are in the "INSPIRED" Word of God. I would believe him and trust him before any human being. The GB teachings are in the Watchtower and have been "PROVEN" false. They even admit they were wrong! Which by the way, in no way justifies that they "TAUGHT" a false truth and a false prophecy. None of Pauls teachings were or are false.

 

[savagewind]

Lol, Pauls teachings are in the "INSPIRED" Word of God. I would believe him and trust him before any human being. The GB teachings are in the Watchtower and have been "PROVEN" false. They even admit they were wrong! Which by the way, in no way justifies that they "TAUGHT" a false truth and a false prophecy. None of Pauls teachings were or are false.

Not correct but assumed. When "all scripture is God-breathed and beneficial" was written it was written by Hebrews about Hebrews. Correct? It is ASSUMING whenever anyone says their scriptures are also God-breathed. Isn't it?

If the scriptures YOU lean on to believe are referred to in that scripture, then it would SAY so. It would say ARE AND WILL BE.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

You lost me.

Why didn't Jesus teach to abstain from blood, if it was and is such a sin?

 

[savagewind]

Why didn't Jesus teach to abstain from blood, if it was and is such a sin?

I didn't say it was "such a sin". YOU asked who taught it and I said Moses did.

Matthew 5:17-18 ESV / 4 helpful votes
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Not correct but assumed. When "all scripture is God-breathed and beneficial" was written it was written by Hebrews about Hebrews. Correct? It is ASSUMING whenever anyone says their scriptures are also God-breathed. Isn't it?

If the scriptures YOU lean on to believe are referred to in that scripture, then it would SAY so. It would say ARE AND WILL BE.

I don't really understand your wording, but I assume you're trying to imply that the Bible has error?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

I didn't say it was "such a sin". YOU asked who taught it and I said Moses did.

Matthew 5:17-18 ESV / 4 helpful votes
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

Eph 2:13-15 (ESVST) . 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,

 

[djhwoodwerks]

The Mosaic law

 

[savagewind]

I don't really understand your wording, but I assume you're trying to imply that the Bible has error?

Why do you believe ALL of the Bible canon has no errors? Is it because of 2 Timothy 3:16. That was written about The Hebrew Scriptures. I think The Hebrew Scriptures are with fewer mistranslations than the Greek Scriptures are.

I am certain our modern Bibles contain MANY mistakes. I am certain nobody (but me) cares. Perfection is a lonely job.

 

[savagewind]

Eph 2:13-15 (ESVST) . 14 For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility 15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,

Tennis is fun, but it is a waste of time on my but. That means if I were actually playing tennis I would be getting some exercise.

 

[savagewind]

The New Testament didn't exist when 2 Timothy 3:16 was written.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Why do you believe ALL of the Bible canon has no errors? Is it because of 2 Timothy 3:16. That was written about The Hebrew Scriptures. I think The Hebrew Scriptures are with fewer mistranslations than the Greek Scriptures are.

I am certain our modern Bibles contain MANY mistakes. I am certain nobody (but me) cares. Perfection is a lonely job.

If you truly believe the Bible has "MANY" mistakes, why do you even bother studying it or debating it in this forum? Do you pick and choose what the mistakes are? Do you know for sure what the mistakes are? How can you debate something you're not 100% positive about? That would be like me going to a Heart Surgeons forum and debating what I believe to be true in their journals on heart surgery.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

The New Testament didn't exist when 2 Timothy 3:16 was written.

LMBO! None of the New Testament existed while it was being written!

 

[savagewind]

If you truly believe the Bible has "MANY" mistakes, why do you even bother studying it or debating it in this forum? Do you pick and choose what the mistakes are? Do you know for sure what the mistakes are? How can you debate something you're not 100% positive about? That would be like me going to a Heart Surgeons forum and debating what I believe to be true in their journals on heart surgery.

Wrong! When you quoted the scriptures which say we have heavenly help did you know what you were saying?

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Why do you believe ALL of the Bible canon has no errors? Is it because of 2 Timothy 3:16. That was written about The Hebrew Scriptures. I think The Hebrew Scriptures are with fewer mistranslations than the Greek Scriptures are.

I am certain our modern Bibles contain MANY mistakes. I am certain nobody (but me) cares. Perfection is a lonely job.

How can anyone debate something they do not have 100% faith in?