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Jimmy

I have always existed
Are you the kind of person that needs evidence to explain life’s mysteries or do you delight in a more mysterious approach like myself?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
Are you the kind of person that needs evidence to explain life’s mysteries or do you delight in a more mysterious approach like myself?
Faith in the teaching of the Sufi mystic is what I see as what I need to understand existence
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Are you the kind of person that needs evidence to explain life’s mysteries or do you delight in a more mysterious approach like myself?

Evidence and reasoning are the only ways to genuinely explain a mystery. Everything else is blind guesswork. If you don't have enough evidence to explain something, then you can't know the answer and it's rational to just admit that.

"I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong. I have approximate answers, and possible beliefs, and different degrees of uncertainty about different things, but I am not absolutely sure of anything. There are many things I don't know anything about, such as whether it means anything to ask "Why are we here?" I might think about it a little bit, and if I can't figure it out then I go on to something else. But I don't have to know an answer. I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in the mysterious universe without having any purpose - which is the way it really is, as far as I can tell."
-- Richard Feynman​
 

Jimmy

I have always existed
Evidence and reasoning are the only ways to genuinely explain a mystery. Everything else is blind guesswork. If you don't have enough evidence to explain something, then you can't know the answer and it's rational to just admit that.

"I think it's much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers which might be wrong. I have approximate answers, and possible beliefs, and different degrees of uncertainty about different things, but I am not absolutely sure of anything. There are many things I don't know anything about, such as whether it means anything to ask "Why are we here?" I might think about it a little bit, and if I can't figure it out then I go on to something else. But I don't have to know an answer. I don't feel frightened by not knowing things, by being lost in the mysterious universe without having any purpose - which is the way it really is, as far as I can tell."
-- Richard Feynman​
Rick feels no fear not knowing as I feel no fear to know. That fear swings both ways.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Rick feels no fear not knowing as I feel no fear to know. That fear swings both ways.

If you have no evidence or reasoning, then you don't know. You may believe something but that isn't the same as knowing. Guesswork (belief without evidence) is not knowledge.
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Personally I know.
To each their own

You can believe what you want but if you think you know something without any proper justification (evidence and/or reasoning) then you're living in a fantasy world. Sorry.
 

Jimmy

I have always existed
If you have no evidence or reasoning, then you don't know. You may believe something but that isn't the same as knowing. Guesswork (belief without evidence) is not knowledge.
My point exactly. Knowing is where the fear comes in because you’re not supposed to know you’re supposed to believe
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Are you the kind of person that needs evidence to explain life’s mysteries or do you delight in a more mysterious approach like myself?
Not sure what you mean by "a more mysterious approach" - could you elaborate?
 

ratiocinator

Lightly seared on the reality grill.
Knowing is where the fear comes in because you’re not supposed to know you’re supposed to believe

You're not making the slightest bit of sense. "Supposed to" according to whom? What fear is there in knowing something?
 
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