Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
I was replying to your question over why I care about my neighbor's religious views.
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"We don't know" - why can't religions except that?
- Thread starter Altfish
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I was replying to your question over why I care about my neighbor's religious views.
Perhaps that goes far to explain why you feel safe ignoring the religious convictions of your neighbors. In the town I live in, that's not a luxury.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
Most religions to me is based on fear, they are too frightened to own up to not knowing something, as this will make them feel that their faith is not solid, sad really.
First, my study of the paranormal shows me more than the physical level exists. Secondly, the sages and seers of the eastern traditions have described these things and they dovetail well with an analysis of the paranormal. Thirdly, I personally know of one particular spiritual master who I esteem above any doubts with evidence beyond any doubts.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Can you provide any of this evidence?
Geoff-Allen
Resident megalomaniac
I can do even better ... can direct you 2 an entire book - just search 4 John Ashton In Six Days.
It has 50 top scientists answering the question of why they don't accept evoution.
There are so many holes in the theory that it would take dozens of posts 2 list them all.
Something isn't true just because a lot of people "believe" it - applies 2 evolution and to religions.
Have a good one!
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
1) Please use proper English.
2) As I do not have the time, money or inclination to read the book can you please tell me some of these "plot holes"?
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
To be fair I think this is a human thing rather than a specifically religious thing, though a number of religious beliefs could be seen to have developed from this basis. Even in science we have concepts of assumptions and probability to create intermediate answers we can work with even though they might not be accurate. Fear of the unknown is one of our greatest limitations so we come up with all sorts of ways of establishing explanations for things we don’t know, some more rational than others.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Oh don't worry in return we have Islamists. But then again I am smart enough not to live next to them.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Ironically where I am they tend to be nicer and more understanding than the Christians. Probably because they have been forced to live as an easily identifiable minority, it tends to make people more empathetic.
djhwoodwerks
Well-Known Member
I can't speak for all Christians, but for myself, I don't need an answer for everything to have faith in God. I have many questions and things I don't understand, but I still have faith the Bible is true and Jesus Christ is Lord and God is still on His throne.
Romans 1:16-17 (ESVST) 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, "The righteous shall live by faith."
2Co 5:5-7 (ESVST) 5 He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee. 6 So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
By definition faith is belief without evidence.
How do you think that is a good way to determine if something is true?
djhwoodwerks
Well-Known Member
Do you believe there is a God?
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
No, but I find the question to be irrelevant.
Do you find find faith (belief without evidence) to be an effective way of judging if something is true?
djhwoodwerks
Well-Known Member
What effective way do you judge that there is no God? Belief without evidence?
Altfish
Veteran Member
Really! Top scientists?
The first two I looked at
Jeremy L Walter has various engineering degrees - their relevance to biology?
Dr. Bergman has a BSc in Pyschology; a PhD in Human Biology from Columbia Pacific University - the second bit sounds promising until you look that University up, "Columbia Pacific University (CPU) was an unaccredited nontraditional distance learning school in California."
You get the idea.
I think I need to refer to Project Steve, " NCSE's "Project Steve" is a tongue-in-cheek parody of a long-standing creationist tradition of amassing lists of "scientists who doubt evolution" or "scientists who dissent from Darwinism."
Creationists draw up these lists to try to convince the public that evolution is somehow being rejected by scientists, that it is a "theory in crisis." Not everyone realizes that this claim is unfounded. NCSE has been asked numerous times to compile a list of thousands of scientists affirming the validity of the theory of evolution. Although we easily could have done so, we have resisted. We did not wish to mislead the public into thinking that scientific issues are decided by who has the longer list of scientists!
Project Steve pokes fun at this practice and, because "Steves" are only about 1% of scientists, it also makes the point that tens of thousands of scientists support evolution. And it honors the late Stephen Jay Gould, evolutionary biologist, NCSE supporter, and friend.
We'd like to think that after Project Steve, we'll have seen the last of bogus "scientists doubting evolution" lists, but it's probably too much to ask. We hope that when such lists are proposed, reporters and other citizens will ask, "How many Steves are on your list!?""
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http://ncse.com/taking-action/project-steve
Oh, that question.
May I, @Taylor Seraphim ?
That is not even a meaningful question to ask. The concept of God is nowhere near delimited enough or meaningful enough for its acceptance to be presumed as you imply.
For more detail, google for "Russell's Teapot".
While they do, indeed, exist, I do not know a single Jew who would claim that his/her religion has an answer for everything.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
I find your faulty assumptions to be irrelevant.
It is a good thing that whatever faulty assumptions @Taylor Seraphim might conceivably hold do not compromise his point here. I guess in that sense they are indeed irrelevant.