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West Virginia Governor Switching Parties

tytlyf

Not Religious
Who? Wonder who bought him out. Doesn't matter to me, has no effect.

James Conley Justice Jr. (born April 27, 1951) is an American coal mining and agriculture businessman and politician who is the 36th and current Governor of West Virginia. Owner of over 50 companies, including The Greenbrier, a luxury resort, Justice is one of the few billionaires from the state of West Virginia.[1]

Justice ran for governor as a Democrat in the 2016 general election, defeating the Republican nominee, Bill Cole. Fewer than seven months after taking office, he switched parties and became a Republican on August 3, 2017.

Oh ya, he's the epitome of a DINO. He's been registered as a republican before he decided to run for office. So what, he was a D for a year? Sounds to me like another billionaire doing whatever they can to appeal to the middle class.

Democrats work for a living, these millionaires/billionaires don't represent the democratic party. But they sure do represent the republican party. He doesn't belong in a party that favors middle class policies over corporate ones.
 
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Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Democrats are trying to get rid of the bad apples in the party.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Democrats are trying to get rid of the bad apples in the party.
Democrats told him to leave? Is that the new conspiracy theory of the day? To me it seems he has always been a republican and is going home after a year. IOW, walking out on his voters.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
I used to live in WV. Place was a dump, good riddance.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Nah, he just realized the errors of his ways.
Errors?

A billionaire involved with the fossil fuel industry and Big Agro that decided to switch from R to D for 1 election? What was his reasoning behind that? What other republicans were running in that election last year?

You see, you need to ask more questions of everything presented to you. Otherwise, they're just shooting fish in a barrel.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Okay an ACTUAL West Virginian speaking here!


I'm not surprised, given his actions as governor.

Democrats are trying to get rid of the bad apples in the party.

A lot of the WV democratic party is "bad apples". The government is bought out by companies like Frontier to the point that you can't pass any telecom law without their okay (they have a huge monopoly and the state is in bed with them financially) as well as the coal companies particularly down in the southern parts in the state.

Also a lot of companies that have chemical plants have also infiltrated the state government many of the Democrats included to the point of claiming there is too many regulations that caused some of the chemical spills like Charleston faced a year or two ago despite it actually being viritually no regulations that allowed them to unsafely store those chemicals before it spilled into the water supply.

Nah, he just realized the errors of his ways.

Given how corrupt both state parties are it's more that he's aligning with a changing trend in WV state politics. He's still just as corrupt as before, he's just changing a label.

Democrats here have always been really pro-gun and generally more like conservatives socially. The entire state leans more towards left economics as we have little way to improve our economy while keeping the status quo of coal mining and chemical plant production. A lot of that is due to the fact that both have so thoroughly corrupted the state government both parties involved.

It's been clear for a while now that if we just embraced creating new industries (like greener energy and technology focused industries) and expanding on other successful ones that don't have enough support or attention (like tourism) we would get out of our economic situation. But as it is now we just kind of stay in a perpetual state of middle lower class if not poverty for huge swaths of the state.

Granted some of that is attributable due to geography but in large part monopolies prevent new companies (particularly when it comes to telecoms, manufacturing and energy) from coming in, which means no competition which means no stimulated economy. So he will likely support most of the same economic stuff. The democrats and Republicans here are little different in that respect.

So him going Republican doesn't mean much of anything.

I used to live in WV. Place was a dump, good riddance.

Hey! Some of us still are stuck live in this dump place!

Actually where did you live? Charleston, Huntington, Parkersburg and Morgantown and some surrounding towns are alright (well Parkersburg almost and Morgantown is too expensive to live in). Anywhere else is almost always truly a dump.

That isn't saying much I guess as combined that's just over 800,000 people of those 4 metros (I looked it up) out of 1.8 million and a lot of that Huntington and Parkersburg metro pops count places in Ohio... so okay let's say over 55% of the state is a dump but the rest is kinda okay.
 

Kapalika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Errors?

A billionaire involved with the fossil fuel industry and Big Agro that decided to switch from R to D for 1 election? What was his reasoning behind that? What other republicans were running in that election last year?

You see, you need to ask more questions of everything presented to you. Otherwise, they're just shooting fish in a barrel.

Crap something Just recalled. Also @ @esmith also but it's worth mentioning that he is facing some serious resistence against the newer Democrat movement that's dis-disillusioned by the democratic party as a whole and are rising up against the leadership and corrupt within the party. With the Republicans he has a better chance of getting the nomination. There is actually a couple of serious candidates that could usurp the nomination especially as Justice has sided with Trump.

It also makes some political sense as a lot of the state voted for Trump in the last election. Even more interestingly every. single. county. in the democrat primaries voted against Hillary and for Bernie Sanders. A lot of this new democratic movement against the corruption in the party is rooted in Sanders sentiments.

Indeed, the democrat(s) poised to steal the nomination from him in the next election had he stayed Democrat could of easily defeated him with their platform of getting us jobs and a clean environment.

It's been pointed out that we can have jobs and not posion our water like the many environmental disasters we have had in the last few years that have brought a lot of sickness and disease. Even in my area there was a huge scare over realizing how unsafe the water has been to drink because of companies like DuPont leading to needing new filters and them leaving the area and a slew of thyroid issues, birth defects and cancer (this was all proven over a decade of careful scientific study leading to some serious legal repercussions) and I already mentioned the huge chemical spill in Charleston that literally made the water in people's facets yellow and dangerous.

Simply put, of course it makes sense for him to go Republican. He can't make new jobs for us and never will with his policies ,and he can't promise us safe drinking water. The new anti-establishment democrats are promising to make those two issues their primary concern to the fear of many sitting democrats who's pockets are lined with the monopoly companies that line their pockets and don't want the competition or to take the cost of avoiding destroying the places we live and breathe in!

It will be interesting to see how it turns out. Until the last 10 or 18 years we were a bastion of the democrats but slowly have turned red for presidential elections, and somewhat on the state and congress levels. A lot of that changed last election cycle and the state became more red overall and it might continue to go red, or maybe not. It's hard to tell.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Nah, he just realized the errors of his ways.
Oh, so you don't think he's a politician being political, making the change for political reasons in a state that voted overwhelmingly for Trump?
 
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