Prometheus85
Active Member
What is a good king's single most important quality?
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What’s Makes A Good King
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Abdication.
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
Welcome aboard, and- my criteria for a good leader is that a person at least care about the people in his/her charge, and understand he/she has a moral responsibility to do good by them. I include non-citizens in this, because they are still within the borders of said leader, and in his/her charge. A good leader will be inclined to fairness and have a sense of justice. A good leader will be inclined to compassion and mercy- and disinclined to greed and anger.
Long lifespan and good table manners. One of those.
Prometheus85
Active Member
Justice? A good king must be just. julius Cesar was just, Everyone applauded his reforms, nobles and commoners alike. He was murdered By the Roman senators he pardon after they rebelled against him during the Roman civil war. Was that truly just of him, to abandon his subjects to an evil he was too gullible to recognize?
Curious George
Veteran Member
This seems to have two subjective layers. First we are to subjectively decide what a is good, and then what is most important. Seems like a tricky question.
If you do not mind a tricky answer, I would say goodness.
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Prometheus85
Active Member
Britain's Edward VIII abdicated in 1936, less than a year into his reign. He was determined to marry American divorcée Wallis Simpson and keep the throne. Not only did divorce carry great stigma at the time, but the King was supposed to be the head of the Church of England, who taught that marrying after divorce was wrong if the divorced partner was still alive. He didn't really fancy being King anyway and neither did the British public (he was known to have Nazi sympathies). So that's OK.
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
His death
Non-existence?
Curious George
Veteran Member
I am still anticipating you might pursue a philosopher king route akin to the Republic, but your responses aren't very forthcoming.
Why is it important to pursue the line of questioning that tells us what is the most important quality of a good king?
Prometheus85
Active Member
I’m trying to start an conversation between Me and others on this thread where i am employing the Socratic Method to see if anybody can come up the single most important quality that makes a good king.
Curious George
Veteran Member
How can we determine what "good" is?
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
I'm not certain we can in a materialist framework. We could start talking about non-material notions that people believe is a standard of good.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Is it ironic to imply that a materialist framework isn't a good framework to discuss goodness? Wouldn't this mean that from your perspective you have left the materialist framework already?
Let us see if we can agree on a goodness without discussing the framework. Surely if one framework is insufficient we will see that within the discussion.
So how can we determine goodness?
Prometheus85
Active Member
knowing what you know and what you don’t know.
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
What does irony have to do with it?
It means one doesn't accept the materialist framework. Not that they left it. There are entire societies in history that never accepted a materialist framework.
Why should we not discuss the framework? Do you think materialism has automatic merit?
Curious George
Veteran Member
How does awareness of knowledge or lack thereof entail goodness?