sovietchild
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Yeah, those poor little birds. What is wrong with those people who keep birds in cages?
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What’s wrong with those people who worship animals?
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Yeah, those poor little birds. What is wrong with those people who keep birds in cages?
Why hasn't "Allah" put a stop to all of this nonsense if it's so important not to have pets? Give me a break.
sovietchild
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I guess we humans have an authority to do anything we want with them. What do you think?
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The current reality is that where I live, dogs and cats run wild everywhere. A lot of effort is put into keeping them off the streets, they are fixed so they can't reproduce, and placed into home environments where they can thrive for the short time that they have. If that isn't possible, they are converted into pet food.
The fact is that small animals do survive *without* our help, despite being domesticated.
sovietchild
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How can possibly those tiny little dogs survive on their own in the woods outside of the city life? No way, no how.
Neither would you or I survive in places where there is no food to be found.
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
Objection. Part of my life we had to grow our own potatoes.
Riders
Well-Known Member
Your wrong I see tiny dogs in apartment complexes living off the trash dumps and running the streets and surviving.
They don't have to have us, theres nothing wrong with having pets.I baby my sweet dog to death she loves living with me so does my cat Cali.
We don't have power over animals they are not a different rank and sense its illegal to do what we wish with them, you get to be sentenced to prison and charged with abuse if you do, why do you keep saying we can doa s we wish with animals? we cant.
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
Did you miss the part where I stated "on their own in the woods outside of the city life"
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
What exactly can those tinny dogs hunt in the woods? People made a pray out of them.
gnostic
The Lost One
How is that any more wrong than worshipping an invisible deity or spirit that you called Allah?
At least animals are tangible.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
It's only wrong because it's different to what soviet does.
sovietchild
Well-Known Member
Animals are created, aren't they not? Shouldn't we worship the Originator?
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Begging the question that Allah is the First Cause of all things.
Unless you can show that they are, nope. They are not.
Unless you can show that there is an "Originator", nope, we shouldn't. That's blind faith.
You are assuming a premise without having shown it to be true.
/E: Here it is dumbed down so you can understand what i'm trying to say: Some people don't think there's a creator, or that everything was created. Those people also use this forum. For fairness' sake, it is dishonest and sinful from you to assume that your stance is right by default, and everyone else gets to defend theirs against yours. That's not how a debate works. That's how an idiot proselytizing works.
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sovietchild
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Animals are created, we humans even modify them, don't we not?
…and, to say God is a spirit would imply He is a created being, which is blasphemy.
It is not logical to assume that just because humans are capable of modifying animals, ALL animals are created. Firstly, we can't create anything from nothing. But your claim is that there's such a being that can. THIS has not been shown by you to be true, yet you are assuming it to be true to form the basis of your argument. Your argument is weak.
Second, animals are not created unless you can without reasonable doubt verify that they are created. I don't think you're smart enough to be capable of that.
*Insert picture*
That's not an argument for all animals being created. That's a picture you found from the internet. It's only an argument for how weak your claims are.
I never said that. I said you haven't shown that there is a god, so you can't assume it to be true in a FAIR DEBATE. It's not a fair debate if you're proselytizing. In fact, proselytizing is against the forum rules. You are literally invoking blasphemy...
Here's the thing: Since i don't assume everything was created, how can you come to the conclusion that i'm making an argument that a god was created? That's just silly and undermines your level of ability.
Seriously, your arguments aren't logical at all. It's difficult to even answer to them because of your underlying assumptions about other people's thoughts. You posit that everyone else's accepted premise is that everything was created, and form your argument from there. That's just silly.
TLDR: I'm trying to make you see that your own claims are so weak on their OWN merits that they don't really need anyone to reply to them. I'll just let you continue posting your inane silly statements in peace from now on.
Authority?
I thought we were talking about what is right and proper.
Authorities play no role in that.