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What about non religious rabbi?

Leo613

Active Member
Is it possible to have a rabbi that's not religious for example driving on Sabbath even in an orthodox community?

No ones perfect.
 

Flankerl

Well-Known Member
Which part of "don't light a fire" is hard to understand?

Reform Jews drive on the Shabbat. If you aren't happy with Orthodoxy just leave it....
 

Eliab ben Benjamin

Active Member
Premium Member
A long long time ago when i was a teen , i used to ride my motor cycle across the harbor
bridge to Shull on Shabbat ... parked out the front.. one day the Rabbi asked why i parked
just out the gates. rather than less conspicuously down the road in the park, as others did.

my response "Rav.Korba ... unlike some i am not a hypocrite sufficiently to need to hide
my indiscretions" ...
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
Is it possible to have a rabbi that's not religious.............?

I'm not exactly sure how you define religious. I suspect that by religious you mean, in part, traditionally observant. If that is what you mean then you would consider me to be a nonreligious rabbi. It would also mean that you would judge most rabbis outside of Orthodoxy to be nonreligious rabbis as well.

Next question.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
A long long time ago when i was a teen , i used to ride my motor cycle across the harbor
bridge to Shull on Shabbat ... parked out the front.. one day the Rabbi asked why i parked
just out the gates. rather than less conspicuously down the road in the park, as others did.

my response "Rav.Korba ... unlike some i am not a hypocrite sufficiently to need to hide
my indiscretions" ...
That reminds me of a cute joke.

Police officer pulls over a driver that blew past him at 80mph, strolls up to the window, which rolls down.
Officer says, "I've been waiting for someone to come speeding through here."
The young driver quickly responds, "Yes, I know officer, I got here as fast as I could!"
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
I'm not exactly sure how you define religious. I suspect that by religious you mean, in part, traditionally observant. If that is what you mean then you would consider me to be a nonreligious rabbi. It would also mean that you would judge most rabbis outside of Orthodoxy to be nonreligious rabbis as well.

Next question.
Are you suggesting that he put some thought into this question as to already have had prepared a definition?
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Is it possible to have a rabbi that's not religious for example driving on Sabbath even in an orthodox community?

No ones perfect.

In North Europe there are self declared atheist pastors still having a parish and a flock. So, I guess it is possible.

Ciao

- viole
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
Are you suggesting that he put some thought into this question as to already have had prepared a definition?

Leo's posts on the forum that do not deal with religion per se have acknowledged that he, unfortunately, is dealing with severe social and psychological problems. It may be that those other problems are, at least partially, responsible for his apparent lack of knowledge/understanding of the Orthodox Judaism in which he claims he was raised and educated.

Only because of the subject matter did I respond to this thread.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
In North Europe there are self declared atheist pastors still having a parish and a flock. So, I guess it is possible.
I don't know how exactly that is handled in the various faiths, but atheists do after all exist in the same world and deal with the same people and situations as most anyone else, so IMO there is no inherent conflict there.

Sure, that means that they hold an understanding of the nature of God that is not technically aligned with the letter of the doctrine. But is that truly unusual or very consequential? I don't think so.
 

Leo613

Active Member
Leo's posts on the forum that do not deal with religion per se have acknowledged that he, unfortunately, is dealing with severe social and psychological problems. It may be that those other problems are, at least partially, responsible for his apparent lack of knowledge/understanding of the Orthodox Judaism in which he claims he was raised and educated.

Only because of the subject matter did I respond to this thread.
How does my social enxiety effect my making a point about anything?

People who suffer with depression or social enxiety doesn't mean they are not intelligent
I don't know how exactly that is handled in the various faiths, but atheists do after all exist in the same world and deal with the same people and situations as most anyone else, so IMO there is no inherent conflict there.

Sure, that means that they hold an understanding of the nature of God that is not technically aligned with the letter of the doctrine. But is that truly unusual or very consequential? I don't think so.
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
How does my social enxiety effect my making a point about anything?

People who suffer with depression or social enxiety doesn't mean they are not intelligent

The only thing that can be said with certainty is that the questions you have posed and the answers that you have given, on this forum, have displayed a lack of knowledge, a lack of understanding, a lack of awareness, of the tradition in which, by your account, you spent so many years in a Lubavitcher yeshiva receiving an education. This is not simply my observation. It is the opinion of virtually every other Jew on the forum - be that Jew Reform, Conservative, To Be Determined, Orthodox or Super Duper Ultra Mega Orthodox.

I said nothing about the intelligence of people who suffer with depression, social anxiety, or any other psychological problem. I said nothing about your intelligence. I don't see how you could even infer that.

What I did say is that possibly the psychological problems that you have faced have served as an impediment to your learning process.
 
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Leo613

Active Member
The only thing that can be said with certainty is that the questions you have posed and the answers that you have given, on this forum, have displayed a lack of knowledge, a lack of understanding, a lack of awareness, of the tradition in which, by your account, you spent so many years in a Lubavitcher yeshiva receiving an education. This is not simply my observation. It is the opinion of virtually every other Jew on the forum - be that Jew Reform, Conservative, To Be Determined, Orthodox or Super Duper Ultra Mega Orthodox.

I said nothing about the intelligence of people who suffer with depression, social anxiety, or any other psychological problem. I said nothing about your intelligence. I don't see how you could even infer that.

What I did say is that possibly the psychological problems that you have faced have served as an impediment to your learning process.
My questions are a view point which isn't to do with my lubavitch education its the way I see life from what I've seen and spoken to different people. I know a lot of people who do agree with my way of thinking.

I don't have a psychological problem besides my social enxiety and depression which wouldn't affect my ability to have a rational opinion
 
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