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What are black jobs?

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
You're making all these claims with ZERO evidence. You're going off "feelings" and crap you hear on conservative media. (ie. Great Replacement trash)
You sound like a bot, honestly. And evidence for what? That there's not an infinite amount of jobs? That's just basic logic. Since when do you ever back up the garbage you vomit all over this board?
Agriculture corporations overwhelmingly hire undocumented workers because they can be exploited. Those corporations are lobbying Republicans.
Yes, I said they are exploited. And what's your point? Do you have one? Oh, and where is your evidence for that last claim? And if they are lobbying them, what is the lobbying for? Does it even have anything to do with illegals?
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
You sound like a bot, honestly. And evidence for what? That there's not an infinite amount of jobs? That's just basic logic. Since when do you ever back up the garbage you vomit all over this board?
When has someone lost a job to an undocumented worker? You act like it's an ongoing threat. (ie: Great replacement trash)
Yes, I said they are exploited. And what's your point? Do you have one? Oh, and where is your evidence for that last claim? And if they are lobbying them, what is the lobbying for? Does it even have anything to do with illegals?
Historically, Fossil fuel corporations, Big agriculture corporations, etc lobby Republicans because of the tax breaks, lower regulation hope, etc..
Republicans are known to favor corporate policies over worker/middle class policies.
Why are you even questioning this? Your own party supports hiring undocumented workers. (but they won't tell you that)
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Any illegal working in the US is taking a job that could go to a US citizen.
Most of the jobs being stolen by "illegal" immigrants, are jobs the average worker refuses to do period. Picking and packaging fruit for instance, to name the most common.

And it really has nothing to do with pay and benefits and everything to do with the actual optics of what it "looks" like working said labor.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
When has someone lost a job to an undocumented worker? You act like it's an ongoing threat. (ie: Great replacement trash)
Every time one of them gets a job here, duh. That could be a job for an American. It's also illegal to hire someone who doesn't at least have a visa, so the hirers are criminals, too.
Historically, Fossil fuel corporations, Big agriculture corporations, etc lobby Republicans because of the tax breaks, lower regulation hope, etc..
Republicans are known to favor corporate policies over worker/middle class policies.
Why are you even questioning this? Your own party supports hiring undocumented workers. (but they won't tell you that)
Neither party supports the working class or middle class. I am not a member of any political party. I only started voting Republican in some races because of Trump. He's not a typical Republican.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Most of the jobs being stolen by "illegal" immigrants, are jobs the average worker refuses to do period. Picking and packaging fruit for instance, to name the most common.

And it really has nothing to do with pay and benefits and everything to do with the actual optics of what it "looks" like working said labor.
They take those jobs because others require citizenship verification.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Most of the jobs being stolen by "illegal" immigrants, are jobs the average worker refuses to do period. Picking and packaging fruit for instance, to name the most common.

And it really has nothing to do with pay and benefits and everything to do with the actual optics of what it "looks" like working said labor.
That's bs. Americans do back breaking, grueling jobs all the time. They just don't want to do it for subpar pay. Americans are the hardest worked people in the developed world. So I never bought that slander of the American worker. It's just an excuse to justify use of poor illegals as slave labor, and provides cover for the people who employ them under the table.
 
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The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
That's bs.
Believe what you want.

"Undocumented immigrants are more likely to be in their prime working years, between the ages of 25 and 64, and they are often concentrated in lower-wage, less-skilled jobs. These jobs include construction, food service, retail sales, and groundskeeping. However, even in occupations where illegal immigrants make up 15% or more of the workforce, there are still 5.7 million U.S.-born Americans employed"

The fact that corporations get away with paying them **** wages and hiring them over paying American workers more is the issue. Not the fact that "illegal" immigrants want to work jobs they'll be hired for.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Believe what you want.

"Undocumented immigrants are more likely to be in their prime working years, between the ages of 25 and 64, and they are often concentrated in lower-wage, less-skilled jobs. These jobs include construction, food service, retail sales, and groundskeeping. However, even in occupations where illegal immigrants make up 15% or more of the workforce, there are still 5.7 million U.S.-born Americans employed"

The fact that corporations get away with paying them **** wages and hiring them over paying American workers more is the issue. Not the fact that "illegal" immigrants want to work jobs they'll be hired for.
Both are the issue. They shouldn't be here in the first place and no one should be hiring them.

But thank you for showing that Americans are competing with those people for jobs.
 
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