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What are black jobs?

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
During the debate some topics were...
-black unemployment...by both
-creating black jobs...by both
-black jobs being stolen by illegal immigrants...by Trump

What are black jobs?
Black unemployment was high when Trump took office in 2016. This has historically been the case for various reasons, especially in Democrat run cities. It was not properly addressed by Obama and Biden. Trump's goal was to create jobs to address this high level of black unemployment, using targeted changes in black neighborhoods; black jobs.

One approach was enterprise zones, where investments were made in predominantly black communities, so blacks and others could set up businesses and then create more jobs. If you add a new supermarket this not only good for the community, but may create 100 jobs. The local standard of living improves, and then other investment comes in. This was doing well in many places and Trump was proud he could help.

The problem was the DNC led riots of the summer of 2020, burned and looted many of these new small business zones. As odd as it sounds, black employment harms the bureaucratic welfare state; it is less needed, and therefore harms the Democrat's dependency lock on the black vote. What does black vote mean and why is it shifting? Punishing the productive and cheering on the thugs, was part of the answer.

In terms of jobs, I was reading an analysis of the current US Jobs Report, by the CEO of Home Depot. He was saying the numbers are good in terms of adding jobs, but it is misleading since half the jobs created are Government jobs. Government Jobs do not add to the GNP. If anything, with Government giving a -22.7% rate of return on the tax dollar, due to the interest on the National Debt, these Government jobs are causing the inflation to persist. The economy is not growing as fast as the new demand, caused by all the fake jobs. These are based on borrowing and a negative rate of return. The DNC is buying job votes, by adding to the debt, to fudge the job numbers. But nobody is buying that scam. The tax payers should demand a refund to get that -22.7% back so they can create a positive rate of return.

The Government should be cutting jobs and streamlining, to minimize their negative impact on the tax base, while removing regulations that are strangling the economy. This will be the approach of Trump, with black jobs and enterprise zones also a goal. One way to shrink the Government, is to make it less needed, such as by creating independence through Jobs in the private sector. This way you replace -22.7% rate of return of the welfare state, with a positive rate of return; +3% as the GNP grows.

The new Supreme Court decision; Chevron Deference is gone, will make it harder for the bureaucratic state to grow, since they can on longer make laws designed for their own growth, at the expense of the economy, to the tune of -22.7% rate of return or even worse due to the economic implications of their growth based overreach.

I would get rid of money pits like the Department of Education and rebuild from the ground floor to be a tighter ship. Right now the children are merely pawns to the bureaucracy; overlords instead of public servants because negative value is allowed; DEI.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
No other groups other than illegal immigrants are referred to as "illegals". Why do you think that is?
Because when people are distinguishing between legal and illegal immigrants, it's tedious to have to say "immigrants" each and every time. People tend to shorten phrases for brevity. Just as people say prez instead of president, or SCOTUS instead of Supreme Court of the United States, or America instead of United States of America.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Because conservatives are weak and racist, and need groups to prejudice against to make them feel special and privileged. They can't openly be racist against blacks, even though Trump referred to "black jobs" as if that is a known category of jobs. And gays have too much equality as a norm to be prejudiced against directly (even though Sam Alito's wife was recorded as being hostile to gay pride). So trans people are the new target, along with other marginalized groups whose freedom of expression and liberty to be who they are is attacked.
Sounds like you're just promoting victimhood propaganda.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
So why not just refer to them as illegal immigrants?


Why not just call them illegal immigrants, rather than "illegals"?

Please wrap your head around this.
Dude, get a grip! They cross the border illegally, and commit heinous crimes against our citizens and cost the country billions of dollars, and you're only concerned about them being called "illegal" without the word "immigrant" being attached to it.
Get your priorities straight.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Because when people are distinguishing between legal and illegal immigrants, it's tedious to have to say "immigrants" each and every time.
You mean, it's tedious to refer to the thing you are referring to?

You don't think that's weird?

People tend to shorten phrases for brevity. Just as people say prez instead of president, or SCOTUS instead of Supreme Court of the United States, or America instead of United States of America.
And yet this rule regarding brevity only seems to be applied to one specific group. Why do you think that is?
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Dude, get a grip! They cross the border illegally, and commit heinous crimes against our citizens and cost the country billions of dollars,
Speaking of "getting a grip", you might want to wind your neck back in on those claims, as you seem to be pretty clearly implying that calling them "illegals" carries deserved negative connotations. Which kind of makes my point for me that that's the REASON you use it.

Also, you're wrong. Illegal immigrants commit less crime on average than both legal immigrants and, especially, natural born citizens:

As for the cost, well, that varies. In some cases, illegal immigrants actually contribute more to the economy than they take out of it, due to them paying taxes, lowering costs to employers, and often contributing to increasing overall wages to lower-middle to high-income earners while also not being eligible for certain services that would otherwise contribute to them being a financial deficit. To simply view all illegal immigrants as a drain on the US economy is undeniably false, however. Or, at least, a dramatic oversimplification. Studies on this are all over the place, however, as obviously it can be difficult to quantify such a broad claim in simple terms.

and you're only concerned about them being called "illegal" without the word "immigrant" being attached to it.
I'm just asking why it is, and since you don't appear to have a straight answer, it's pretty obvious what that is. It's dehumanisation. And the fact that you group them all together as "committing heinous crimes" and "costing the country billions", it's pretty obvious that's the intention.

Get your priorities straight.
All I did was ask a simple question. The fact that you went right off the deep-end and all but admitted that it's intentional dehumanisation of a group you wish to demonise you did all on your own, without any prodding or insinuation by me.

Why can't right-wingers answer simple questions without going totally mask off?
 
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ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Also, gotta love this irony.

Sounds like you're just promoting victimhood propaganda.
One post later:

Dude, get a grip! They cross the border illegally, and commit heinous crimes against our citizens and cost the country billions of dollars, and you're only concerned about them being called "illegal" without the word "immigrant" being attached to it.
Get your priorities straight.
"Dude, you're just promoting victimhood propaganda."
One post later:
"Dude, we call them that because they're bad and mean and they do bad things to us and cost us money!"

Stop playing the victim.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
You mean, it's tedious to refer to the thing you are referring to?

You don't think that's weird?

And yet this rule regarding brevity only seems to be applied to one specific group. Why do you think that is?

I just mentioned 3 examples, and yet you only saw your own. Why do you think that is?
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
Speaking of "getting a grip", you might want to wind your neck back in on those claims, as you seem to be pretty clearly implying that calling them "illegals" carries deserved negative connotations. Which kind of makes my point for me that that's the REASON you use it.

Crossing the border illegally is an illegal action which gives them their illegal status.
I hope that clears things up for ya.
 

Laniakea

Not of this world
And committing a felony is what gives Trump his status as a felon.
Nice whataboutism, but I guess everything is about Trump, even when you're asking why illegal aliens are called illegals.

Try watching Biden's Press conference tonight. Tomorrow we'll see a thread started about it, and of course people like you will try to make it about Trump.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Nice whataboutism, but I guess everything is about Trump, even when you're asking why illegal aliens are called illegals.

Try watching Biden's Press conference tonight. Tomorrow we'll see a thread started about it, and of course people like you will try to make it about Trump.

To be fair, I posted about Trump being a felon/criminal in post #141

Why call Trump a felon. Why not just call him a criminal?
Because felon refers to his criminal status.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
To be fair, I posted about Trump being a felon/criminal in post #141
Good for you. We should all try to mention the fact that Trump is a convicted felon in every post, whether it is relevant or not.


Btw, did you know that Donald Trump is a convicted felon?
 
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