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What are the differences between ‘God’ and ‘Jesus Christ’?

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Throughout the scriptures significant statements are made concerning ‘God’ and ‘Jesus [Christ]’.

However, many people claim that Jesus IS GOD despite many differences between them.

Some instances:
  1. ‘God’ is called ‘The Father’, while Jesus is called ‘The Son’
  2. ‘Jesus’ is also the NAME of this son but ‘YHWH’ is the name of Gods
  3. God is never seen but Jesus is seen many times
  4. Jesus was born a sinless human but God is never born
  5. ‘Jesus’ means ‘He who saves’ and we read that God sent him to do so … Jesus BECAME the saviour. But God is immutable and never BECOMES anything other than what He already was!
  6. God (‘YHWH’) is called ‘Father’, which means:
    1. ‘He who gives life’
    2. ‘He who brings into being’
    3. ‘He who creates’
  7. God is the one SEATED on the throne envisioned in Heaven - but Jesus is envisioned as a lamb ‘looking as though slaughtered’ STANDING in front and centre of that throne on which God is seated…
  8. The first martyr, Stephen, in vision, looked up into heaven and saw ‘God’ seated on his throne, and, Jesus STANDING next to God. And we know that he who is seated in such a situation is the one in power, and the one standing next to him is in a support position
  9. Jesus is GIVEN / GRANTED many things but God is the one who gives / grants Jesus (things of power)
His is it said that Jesus is ‘EQUAL TO/WITH GOD’ and ‘IS GOD’, given the revelations shown above in the bullet points.

Please refer to the relevant bullet points in your responses in order to directly address the question.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I like bullet point # 4 because God is Creator who was never born, never created, God existed from everlasting: No beginning for God - Psalm 90:2
Whereas, pre-human heavenly Jesus was " in " the beginning but never ' before ' the beginning as his God was. - Rev. 3:14 B
 

101G

Well-Known Member
‘God’ is called ‘The Father’, while Jesus is called ‘The Son’
Because Jesus as Son, the Ordinal Last created NOTHING, but Jesus as the Father, the Ordinal First CREATED all and Made all things.

now may 101G ask you a question concering the title "Father" and "Son". .... and the term "GOD"

question, how many Saviour are there as ......... "GOD?" Llisten, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." and one more, Isaiah 45:21 "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me."

Note Saviour/saviour are spelled two ways. both are referring to "God". now this. Titus 1:4 "To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour."

here the Lord Jesus the Christ is the Saviour, not "God" .... correct? ... wrong, because, Titus 1:3 "But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;"

so soapy which one is "Saviour"...... keep in mind, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." so, we ask who is saviour? A. God whom you call the Father, or B. Jesus the Christ. your answer please.

101G
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Because Jesus as Son, the Ordinal Last created NOTHING, but Jesus as the Father, the Ordinal First CREATED all and Made all things.

now may 101G ask you a question concering the title "Father" and "Son". .... and the term "GOD"

question, how many Saviour are there as ......... "GOD?" Llisten, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." and one more, Isaiah 45:21 "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me."

Note Saviour/saviour are spelled two ways. both are referring to "God". now this. Titus 1:4 "To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour."

here the Lord Jesus the Christ is the Saviour, not "God" .... correct? ... wrong, because, Titus 1:3 "But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;"

so soapy which one is "Saviour"...... keep in mind, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." so, we ask who is saviour? A. God whom you call the Father, or B. Jesus the Christ. your answer please.

101G
101G, it seems you are desperate to find someone to uphold your claims… Gotta tell ya, you won’t find anyone!!! Straight up!!

You asked me to talk about the definitions of ‘Father’ and ‘Son’ and the term ‘God’.

Have you heard nothing of the myriad times I have written about these TITLES and terms…??

Even ‘Saviour’ in very recent times.

But here goes:
‘Father’:
  1. ‘He who creates’
  2. ‘He who brings into being’
  3. ‘He who gives life’
This applies only to God in the beginning. But God created beings on the earth that could mimic these three aspects within their own species.

Note the similarity:
  1. A body (egg) is created in the female of the species. An enlivening spirit (sperm) is given by the male of the same species. (Note that even plants mimic the same)
  2. Man has the ability to design things that had no previous existence - but only within the limits of the laws of the world
  3. As we see today with A.I., man can ‘GIVE LIFE’ (3) to something that he created (1) and brought into being (2)
Why? Because man is a ‘image of God’… ok, you gonna ask me to define what that means, too???

Scriptures says that ‘God is our Father’… He created us; He gave us life; He brought us into being. GOD CREATED… You agree with that.

The scriptures in Isaiah describes the ‘Messiah time come’ as a future ‘ETERNAL FATHER’… We know this to be true since at the end of time the messiah will judge mankind and GIVE ETERNAL LIFE to those whom he judges as worthy. See it? ‘Eternal Father because he will give eternal life (point 3).

So, unlike what Trinitarians say, Jesus Christ, the messiah, is not GOD, THE FATHER… (yeah, I know they don’t SAY IT but that is actually what they ARE saying - they just deny it when they see it in print!) There is a clear distinction in the title of ‘God, the Father’ and ‘Jesus Christ, the Eternal Father’.

Now Son:
  1. ‘An offspring of the Father’
  2. ‘One whom is Begotten’
  3. ‘One who performs and acts outs exactly what the Father commands him to do’
The apostle Paul, while in chains in a prison ‘BEGETS A SON’ (2). This is a runaway slave (Onesimus) whose owner is the master, Philemon (See book of Philemon 1)
Now, clearly, Paul did not procreate Onesimus so how did Paul ‘Beget’ him. There’s no secret… Paul got to know Onesimus and taught him about Christ, whereupon Onesimus went about doing everything that Paul commanded him to do (3) concerning delivering messages to and from the various churches around Rome and among the apostles. Paul was so happy with Onesimus that he ADOPTED Onesimus AS HIS OWN SON. This is a Begetting by Adoption (2).

And as for Jesus, what does the scriptures say:
  • ‘You are my Son. This day I have begotten you’ (2)
Why? Because this:
  • ‘You are my Son in whom I am well pleased …’
because:
  • ‘I did not call myself ‘God’, I said only that God is my Father. If I am not doing the world of my Father then do not believe me!’(3)
Note that point 1 is never used concerning Jesus in respect of God since this point as a direct aspect only applies to CREATED BEINGS OF EARTH (I.E., not angels)
Holy Angels are also called ‘Sons of God’ because they too do exactly what they are commanded to do by God.

Take careful note what Jesus says about some of the Jews:
  • ‘You do wicked things because you are like your Father … He was a liar from the beginning; indeed he is Father of the lie’ (paraphrased).
That statement sums up many aspects of what I just told you. The Jews were not LITERAL OFFSPRINGS of Satan but spiritual Son since they carried out what things that Satan commanded them to do. And Satan is the Father of the lie he brought into being the act of lying.

And Saviour: 101G, why do you do and say the things you do… why do you ask such severely simple questions?

God DELEGATED THE SAVIOURSHIP to Jesus Christ. You present God as the saviour from the Old Testament - and so God was (is!!) and then you present Jesus Christ as saviour from the New Testament. There is no problem… How many times does Jesus say, ‘All power and authority HAS BEEN GRANTED TO ME!’

God even granted Jesus to be JUDGE; and be ‘LIFE GIVER’… did you forget those, too (two!!)

You like to show from Isaiah but you don’t show Isaiah 42:1 in which God STATES that He will put His spirit on the His SERVANT (the messiah) and that Servant will SAVE HIS PEOPLE just as God gave Moses the power and authority to SAVE THE ISRAELITES OUT IF EGYPT…

Who is a saviour then since there are so many… So many BUT EMPOWERED FROM ONE SOURCE: Almighty God.

Now, please don’t say again that you didn’t know these things!!
 

101G

Well-Known Member
so, you avoided the question altogether. no matter.
But here goes:
‘Father’:
  1. ‘He who creates’
  2. ‘He who brings into being’
  3. ‘He who gives life’
This applies only to God in the beginning. But God created beings on the earth that could mimic these three aspects within their own species.
we will take this one point at a time. the one sitting on the throne here is the Lord Jesus. Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

so the Lord CREATED all things, but is this not the Lamb? yes, because the Lord ... "received POWER", let's see. Revelation 5:12 "Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing."

so, the Lord is the Lamb, and the Lamb was slain, and received power just as in Revelation 4:11. but the question now is this who is this slain Lamb that received POWER? let's see. Revelation 19:1 "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:"

so Jesus the Lamb is GOD who is "Lord" that sits on the throne. and who CEATED ALL THINGS, yes .... "ALL THINGS, listen again. Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." yes, JESUS CRFEATED ... "ALL THINGS", you said God created all thing who is the Father ..... remember your own topic here, "What are the differences between ‘God’ and ‘Jesus Christ’?".

now if there's a difference then you have two Gods, that A. CREATED ALL THINGS. and B. you have two God that was slain and resurrected. and C. you have two Gods that received POWER.

we suggest you read this post again for clarity, and for edification.

your reply ...... (smile).... :p YIKES!

101G.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
The first martyr, Stephen, in vision, looked up into heaven and saw ‘God’ seated on his throne, and, Jesus STANDING next to God. And we know that he who is seated in such a situation is the one in power, and the one standing next to him is in a support position

"In the Acts of the Apostles, by the Evangelist Luke, we find an account -substantially historical but embellished with legend- of the execution in Jerusalem of the first Christian martyr, the Hellenist Stephen, who was said - in words echoing Jesus - to have been "using blasphemous language against Moses and against God...against this Holy Place and the Law." In his defense speech, probably edited by Luke himself on the basis of the material, Stephen gives a general description of Israel's salvation history from the call of Abrahsm to the porphets and as a justification of his Christian faith, appeals expressly to "the God of your ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob," who apeared to Moses. Only in the last two sentences does he mention - without naming him - the murder of Jesus. Immediately after the condemnation - just before his own death - he had a vision: "Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at God's right hand. ' I can see heaven thrown open', he said, 'and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God." Here Father, Son and Holy Spirit are mentioned together, or - as Luke puts it - God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. But Stephen does not see, as is so often depicted in Christian art - a triangle in heaven or even a three-faced Deity (trikephalos) and still less the repeatedly produced representation - despite the warnings of Benedict XIV (1754) - in later times of three men with the same figure. No, the Holy Spirit is at his side, in Stephen himself. The invisible force and power proceeding from God fills him entirely and thus opens his eyes: in the Spirit, heaven is shown to him. But God himself remains hidden. Only - quite in the Old Testament sense - his "glory" (Hebrew kabod, Greek doxa) is visible: God's brightness and power, the brilliance of the light that proceeds from him. But Jesus does not sit: he stands, not of course in front of God but at his right hand: that is, in the same power and glory."
Kung
 

101G

Well-Known Member
"In the Acts of the Apostles, by the Evangelist Luke, we find an account -substantially historical but embellished with legend- of the execution in Jerusalem of the first Christian martyr, the Hellenist Stephen, who was said - in words echoing Jesus - to have been "using blasphemous language against Moses and against God...against this Holy Place and the Law." In his defense speech, probably edited by Luke himself on the basis of the material, Stephen gives a general description of Israel's salvation history from the call of Abrahsm to the porphets and as a justification of his Christian faith, appeals expressly to "the God of your ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob," who apeared to Moses. Only in the last two sentences does he mention - without naming him - the murder of Jesus. Immediately after the condemnation - just before his own death - he had a vision: "Stephen, filled with the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at God's right hand. ' I can see heaven thrown open', he said, 'and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God." Here Father, Son and Holy Spirit are mentioned together, or - as Luke puts it - God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. But Stephen does not see, as is so often depicted in Christian art - a triangle in heaven or even a three-faced Deity (trikephalos) and still less the repeatedly produced representation - despite the warnings of Benedict XIV (1754) - in later times of three men with the same figure. No, the Holy Spirit is at his side, in Stephen himself. The invisible force and power proceeding from God fills him entirely and thus opens his eyes: in the Spirit, heaven is shown to him. But God himself remains hidden. Only - quite in the Old Testament sense - his "glory" (Hebrew kabod, Greek doxa) is visible: God's brightness and power, the brilliance of the light that proceeds from him. But Jesus does not sit: he stands, not of course in front of God but at his right hand: that is, in the same power and glory."
Kung
Pearl, no my sister, the is no one standing at God's Right ... ok. not physically. for at the right of God means in power. for if physically that's impossible, for God has no right side to stand next to. God is Spirit, and he Fills both heaven and earth, supportive scripture, Jeremiah 23:23 "Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off?" Jeremiah 23:24 "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD."

so, if God fills both heaven and Earth where is his side, (either), can one stand? it's a metaphor for being in power.

now as for God Face, yes he has a face, in The Intrinsic Spatial, or the Amalgamation of the Ordinal First and the Ordinal Last, supportive scripture, Revelation 22:1 "And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb." Revelation 22:2 "In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations." Revelation 22:3 "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:" Revelation 22:4 "And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads."

his FACE, meaning only ONE PERSON.

101G.
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
so, you avoided the question altogether. no matter.

we will take this one point at a time. the one sitting on the throne here is the Lord Jesus. Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

so the Lord CREATED all things, but is this not the Lamb? yes, because the Lord ... "received POWER", let's see. Revelation 5:12 "Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing."

so, the Lord is the Lamb, and the Lamb was slain, and received power just as in Revelation 4:11. but the question now is this who is this slain Lamb that received POWER? let's see. Revelation 19:1 "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:"

so Jesus the Lamb is GOD who is "Lord" that sits on the throne. and who CEATED ALL THINGS, yes .... "ALL THINGS, listen again. Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." yes, JESUS CRFEATED ... "ALL THINGS", you said God created all thing who is the Father ..... remember your own topic here, "What are the differences between ‘God’ and ‘Jesus Christ’?".

now if there's a difference then you have two Gods, that A. CREATED ALL THINGS. and B. you have two God that was slain and resurrected. and C. you have two Gods that received POWER.

we suggest you read this post again for clarity, and for edification.

your reply ...... (smile).... :p YIKES!

101G.
YOU created two Gods and two Lords so you can indulge your incredible arguments.

Oh, just tell (again): How is Jesus the lamb that is in front and centre of the throne among the human elders AND also God seated on the throne that Jesus is standing in front and centre of?

Doesn’t that make TWO Jesus’?

And the lamb takes the scroll from the hand of himself?
 

101G

Well-Known Member
YOU created two Gods and two Lords so you can indulge your incredible arguments.
so, are you saying that the bible lied?
Oh, just tell (again): How is Jesus the lamb that is in front and centre of the throne among the human elders AND also God seated on the throne that Jesus is standing in front and centre of?
sure, the "ECHAD" of First, and Last. ... (smile)... LOL, LOL, LOL, listen, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star." LOL, LOL, LOL, he is the "ROOT" ordinal First, before David, Father, Creator and Maker of all things, and he is after David in FLESH and Blood as the "OFFSPRING", the Ordinal LAST, Son, Redeemer and Saviour of all that he MADE and CREATED, Oh this is just to easy...... "ECHAD", "ECHAD", "ECHAD" .... of the LIVING and TRUE God. he God, JESUS in the ECHAD of First and Last sits, and Stand before the throne...... did you not have a heads up before? listen and Learn, John 3:13 "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." in flesh bone and BLOOD on Earth, he was in Heaven, (SPIRIT), at the same time...... "ECHAD", "ECHAD", "ECHAD" of First and Last. .... Oh my,,, this is just 2 easy not to understand.

that's HOW

101G.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
And the lamb takes the scroll from the hand of himself?
this is why there is such division in the body of Christ, as here in this statement, "And the lamb takes the scroll from the hand of himself?". really, how Ignorant can one be? 101G will not repeat this doctrine, look it up under the "two fold return". ...... (smile).... yes, in the "ECHAD", he who SIT is he who STAND.... I just love this. the scriptures are correct. Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

101G.
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
this is why there is such division in the body of Christ, as here in this statement, "And the lamb takes the scroll from the hand of himself?". really, how Ignorant can one be? 101G will not repeat this doctrine, look it up under the "two fold return". ...... (smile).... yes, in the "ECHAD", he who SIT is he who STAND.... I just love this. the scriptures are correct. Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."

101G.
It’s true - the people are lost from lack of knowledge - more so from wilful mis-representation of knowledge concerning the scriptures.
 

101G

Well-Known Member
2. ‘Jesus’ is also the NAME of this son but ‘YHWH’ is the name of Gods
but ‘YHWH’ is the name of Gods. did you intend to place an "s' at the end of God?

as to what he is.. yes, but JESUS is the "Personal" name of God, as to "WHO" he is in name.

101G
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
but ‘YHWH’ is the name of Gods. did you intend to place an "s' at the end of God?

as to what he is.. yes, but JESUS is the "Personal" name of God, as to "WHO" he is in name.

101G
“2. ‘Jesus’ is also the NAME of this son but ‘YHWH’ is the name of God. (s , typo!!)”

Where are you getting your ideology!!

The Father has ONE NAME: ‘YHWH’. All else are TITLES (‘GOD’, ‘Lord’, ‘Saviour’, ‘Almighty’, ‘Elohim’, etc.)

The Son has ONE NAME: ‘Jesus’. All else are TITLES (‘Christ’, ‘Lord’, ‘Shepherd’, ‘Mediator’, ‘Man’, ‘Saviour’, etc.)

Name is personal, in the main. Titles are general, can belong to many according to the context.
 
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Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
Dear @Soapy

The difference is that, while God has [“live” and direct access to] the perspective of the Son [Christ] and of the Father and of the Holy Spirit; The Son [Christ] only has [“live” and direct access to] his own, limited perspective (much like Man, but different - we’ll get to that.*).

That difference [in perspective] between God and the Son [Christ] is there because the Son [Christ] (like the Father and the Holy Spirit) is in God, while God is not in anything - God instead is with the Son [Christ] (and the Father and the Holy Spirit).

*****
How is Christ [the Son] both like Man and different to Man in general?

Christ is Man in that he is worldly: physically incarnated, positioned in time and space, limited by a body, with a sense of separate self (ego), and thereby, a sense of “otherness”. Christ is Man in that he too must overcome his ego in order to tackle his natural experiences of [sin] pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth.

Christ is different to Man in general, in that he -by the blessing of God- indirectly (not “live”) retains in memory, the overall God-perspective, despite it not being the perspective that Christ is faced with as Man.

Christ overcomes his human ego and sin thanks to his retained overall God-perspective and Man is forgiven because Christ has lived (in first-person) through Man’s conflicting predicaments and incarnated hardships.


Humbly,
Hermit
 

101G

Well-Known Member
“2. ‘Jesus’ is also the NAME of this son but ‘YHWH’ is the name of God. (s , typo!!)”

Where are you getting your ideology!!

The Father has ONE NAME: ‘YHWH’. All else are TITLES (‘GOD’, ‘Lord’, ‘Saviour’, ‘Almighty’, ‘Elohim’, etc.)
where is 101G is getting his ideology? not from where U are getting yours. let's put your ideology to the test

you said God name is "YHWH", which is "I AM THAT I AM" in Hebrew it is a VERB, and not a NOUN,
H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v.
1. to exist.
2. to be or become.
3. to come into being, i.e. to happen, to occur (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary).
[a primitive root]
KJV: beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use.
Compare: H1933

do you know the difference between Verbs and Nouns? verbs are not Personal Name..... Nouns are.

you said, " All else are TITLES (‘GOD’, ‘Lord’, ‘Saviour’, ‘Almighty’, ‘Elohim’, etc.)" well that's what H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v. or I AM THAT I AM are, titles.

how Ignorant can one be?

101G
 

101G

Well-Known Member
To all,
101G challenge anyone to prove that "I AM THAT I AM", or H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v. is God personal Name as to "WHO" he is in Name.

looking to hear the proof.

101G.
 

Soapy

Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
To all,
101G challenge anyone to prove that "I AM THAT I AM", or H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v. is God personal Name as to "WHO" he is in Name.

looking to hear the proof.

101G.
God’s personal name is ‘YHWH’… just ‘YHWH’ (‘hayah’)

What you posted is ‘I am what I am’, which is His description of Himself: ‘hayah asher hayah’.

It is like saying, “I am the almighty one”; therefore say to them that ‘the almighty’ has sent you.

God took a NAME for Himself from His description of Himself.
 

pearl

Well-Known Member
so, if God fills both heaven and Earth where is his side, (either), can one stand? it's a metaphor for being in power.

Of course it is a symbolic metaphor through which the inspired authors relate their theology and christology
concerning who Jesus is/was.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Throughout the scriptures significant statements are made concerning ‘God’ and ‘Jesus [Christ]’.

However, many people claim that Jesus IS GOD despite many differences between them.

Some instances:
  1. ‘God’ is called ‘The Father’, while Jesus is called ‘The Son’
  2. ‘Jesus’ is also the NAME of this son but ‘YHWH’ is the name of Gods
  3. God is never seen but Jesus is seen many times
  4. Jesus was born a sinless human but God is never born
  5. ‘Jesus’ means ‘He who saves’ and we read that God sent him to do so … Jesus BECAME the saviour. But God is immutable and never BECOMES anything other than what He already was!
  6. God (‘YHWH’) is called ‘Father’, which means:
    1. ‘He who gives life’
    2. ‘He who brings into being’
    3. ‘He who creates’
  7. God is the one SEATED on the throne envisioned in Heaven - but Jesus is envisioned as a lamb ‘looking as though slaughtered’ STANDING in front and centre of that throne on which God is seated…
  8. The first martyr, Stephen, in vision, looked up into heaven and saw ‘God’ seated on his throne, and, Jesus STANDING next to God. And we know that he who is seated in such a situation is the one in power, and the one standing next to him is in a support position
  9. Jesus is GIVEN / GRANTED many things but God is the one who gives / grants Jesus (things of power)
His is it said that Jesus is ‘EQUAL TO/WITH GOD’ and ‘IS GOD’, given the revelations shown above in the bullet points.

Please refer to the relevant bullet points in your responses in order to directly address the question.
God is the Sovereign of the Universe, the CREATOR, not created. Jesus was a nice Jewish man who is probably rolling over in his grave that he is worshiped.
 
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