Because Jesus as Son, the Ordinal Last created NOTHING, but Jesus as the Father, the Ordinal First CREATED all and Made all things.
now may 101G ask you a question concering the title "Father" and "Son". .... and the term "GOD"
question, how many Saviour are there as ......... "GOD?" Llisten, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." and one more, Isaiah 45:21 "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me."
Note Saviour/saviour are spelled two ways. both are referring to "God". now this. Titus 1:4 "To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour."
here the Lord Jesus the Christ is the Saviour, not "God" .... correct? ... wrong, because, Titus 1:3 "But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;"
so soapy which one is "Saviour"...... keep in mind, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." so, we ask who is saviour? A. God whom you call the Father, or B. Jesus the Christ. your answer please.
101G
101G, it seems you are desperate to find someone to uphold your claims… Gotta tell ya, you won’t find anyone!!! Straight up!!
You asked me to talk about the definitions of ‘Father’ and ‘Son’ and the term ‘God’.
Have you heard nothing of the myriad times I have written about these TITLES and terms…??
Even ‘Saviour’ in very recent times.
But here goes:
‘Father’:
- ‘He who creates’
- ‘He who brings into being’
- ‘He who gives life’
This applies only to God in the beginning. But God created beings on the earth that could mimic these three aspects within their own species.
Note the similarity:
- A body (egg) is created in the female of the species. An enlivening spirit (sperm) is given by the male of the same species. (Note that even plants mimic the same)
- Man has the ability to design things that had no previous existence - but only within the limits of the laws of the world
- As we see today with A.I., man can ‘GIVE LIFE’ (3) to something that he created (1) and brought into being (2)
Why? Because man is a ‘image of God’… ok, you gonna ask me to define what that means, too???
Scriptures says that ‘God is our Father’… He created us; He gave us life; He brought us into being. GOD CREATED… You agree with that.
The scriptures in Isaiah describes the ‘Messiah time come’ as a future ‘ETERNAL FATHER’… We know this to be true since at the end of time the messiah will judge mankind and GIVE ETERNAL LIFE to those whom he judges as worthy. See it? ‘Eternal Father because he will give eternal life (point 3).
So, unlike what Trinitarians say, Jesus Christ, the messiah, is not GOD, THE FATHER… (yeah, I know they don’t SAY IT but that is actually what they ARE saying - they just deny it when they see it in print!) There is a clear distinction in the title of ‘God, the Father’ and ‘Jesus Christ, the Eternal Father’.
Now Son:
- ‘An offspring of the Father’
- ‘One whom is Begotten’
- ‘One who performs and acts outs exactly what the Father commands him to do’
The apostle Paul, while in chains in a prison ‘BEGETS A SON’ (2). This is a runaway slave (Onesimus) whose owner is the master, Philemon (See book of Philemon 1)
Now, clearly, Paul did not procreate Onesimus so how did Paul ‘Beget’ him. There’s no secret… Paul got to know Onesimus and taught him about Christ, whereupon Onesimus went about doing everything that Paul commanded him to do (3) concerning delivering messages to and from the various churches around Rome and among the apostles. Paul was so happy with Onesimus that he ADOPTED Onesimus AS HIS OWN SON. This is a Begetting by Adoption (2).
And as for Jesus, what does the scriptures say:
- ‘You are my Son. This day I have begotten you’ (2)
Why? Because this:
- ‘You are my Son in whom I am well pleased …’
because:
- ‘I did not call myself ‘God’, I said only that God is my Father. If I am not doing the world of my Father then do not believe me!’(3)
Note that point 1 is never used concerning Jesus in respect of God since this point as a direct aspect only applies to CREATED BEINGS OF EARTH (I.E., not angels)
Holy Angels are also called ‘Sons of God’ because they too do exactly what they are commanded to do by God.
Take careful note what Jesus says about some of the Jews:
- ‘You do wicked things because you are like your Father … He was a liar from the beginning; indeed he is Father of the lie’ (paraphrased).
That statement sums up many aspects of what I just told you. The Jews were not LITERAL OFFSPRINGS of Satan but spiritual Son since they carried out what things that Satan commanded them to do. And Satan is the Father of the lie he brought into being the act of lying.
And Saviour: 101G, why do you do and say the things you do… why do you ask such severely simple questions?
God DELEGATED THE SAVIOURSHIP to Jesus Christ. You present God as the saviour from the Old Testament - and so God was (is!!) and then you present Jesus Christ as saviour from the New Testament. There is no problem… How many times does Jesus say, ‘All power and authority HAS BEEN GRANTED TO ME!’
God even granted Jesus to be JUDGE; and be ‘LIFE GIVER’… did you forget those, too (two!!)
You like to show from Isaiah but you don’t show Isaiah 42:1 in which God STATES that He will put His spirit on the His SERVANT (the messiah) and that Servant will SAVE HIS PEOPLE just as God gave Moses the power and authority to SAVE THE ISRAELITES OUT IF EGYPT…
Who is a saviour then since there are so many… So many BUT EMPOWERED FROM ONE SOURCE: Almighty God.
Now, please don’t say again that you didn’t know these things!!