What are the differences between ‘God’ and ‘Jesus Christ’?

[101G]

God’s personal name is ‘YHWH’… just ‘YHWH’ (‘hayah’)

What you posted is ‘I am what I am’, which is His description of Himself: ‘hayah asher hayah’.

It is like saying, “I am the almighty one”; therefore say to them that ‘the almighty’ has sent you.

God took a NAME for Himself from His description of Himself.

LOL, LOL, LOL, ok, so what is the Personal Name of God from his description? now, 101G warn you, Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I."

now before you ERROR again, we suggest you THINK before you answer. God by his prophet Isaiah said his people ... "SHALL" ... know his name. SHALL is a future tense word, meaning here at Isaiah, his personal Name was not KNOWN before. so I AM THAT I AM, or I AM, or whatever one wants to come up with has been negated here by God himself at Isaiah 52:6. so 101G is giving you just a friendly reminder..... (smile).

101G.

 

[Soapy]

LOL, LOL, LOL, ok, so what is the Personal Name of God from his description? now, 101G warn you, Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I."

now before you ERROR again, we suggest you THINK before you answer. God by his prophet Isaiah said his people ... "SHALL" ... know his name. SHALL is a future tense word, meaning here at Isaiah, his personal Name was not KNOWN before. so I AM THAT I AM, or I AM, or whatever one wants to come up with has been negated here by God himself at Isaiah 52:6. so 101G is giving you just a friendly reminder..... (smile).

101G.

In that day, 101G, even you shall know the name of the almighty God, the one true God of the Israelites: ‘YHWH’, the Father.

 

[Soapy]

God is the Sovereign of the Universe, the CREATOR, not created. Jesus was a nice Jewish man who is probably rolling over in his grave that he is worshiped.

Well, not ‘rolling over in his grave’ but ‘As temporary ruler over all things (in place of the almighty God’, he is anxious that the devil has deceived so many into CLAIMING worship of him’.

The scriptures…. details similes so we can understand:

• Joseph, in the days of the great famine in Egypt, so pleased the Pharoah that he was granted TEMPORARY RULERSHIP over Egypt UNTIL the famine was over, whence Joseph HANDED BACK THE RULERSHIP to Pharoah so Pharoah was back in TOTAL CHARGE (‘Total Charge’ - Pharoah was never NOT IN CHARGE even as he gave Joseph a temporary position as ruler: ‘Except for my throne, you are to be Pharoah…’. Being seated on the throne is the ultimate sign of rulership!!)
• Jesus Christ (analogised in Joseph), so pleased God (analogised in Pharoah) that God gave Jesus Christ temporary rulership over all things (But did not relinquish His Throne to Jesus Christ) to set things to all things to right. And when all things are set to rights Jesus Christ HANDS BACK the temporary rulership to God so God is back in TOTAL CHARGE.

So Jesus Christ must not be worshipped as though he were God. Many people try to claim that they worship Jesus Christ but if their actions are examined it will be found that in fact they do not worship him. What they are doing is ‘PRAISING, HONORING, and GLORIFYING’ Jesus Christ - This is NOT WORSHIP. All of us, in humanity, praise, honor, and glorify others of humanity many times over; and it’s not a sin because such acts ARE NOT WORSHIPFUL ACTS.

In the book of Revelation, BOTH God and Jesus Christ are given praise, honor, and glorification. Trinitarians jump on this claiming this is proof that Jesus Christ MUST BE GOD because BOTH (!??) are worshipped…. No! BOTH?… ‘both Jesus Christ AND God… are God’? What is this turbulent turgid language? No! Read a little more: Only GOD seated ON THE THRONE is given worship!! It is evident that BOTH God and Jesus Christ are worthy of praise, honor, and glory, but no scripture, no verse, no reference claims Jesus Christ as being worshipped.

And take good note of this:

• Joseph, though having the power and authority of Pharoah, DID NOT THINK TO BE EQUAL WITH PHAROAH but humbled himself to do only that which Pharoah set him to do

Can we see similarity with Phil 2… Jesus Christ, though anointed with the Spirit of God (which is the Power and Authority of God - See Acts 10: 37-38)), did not think to claim equality with God but humbled himself to do only what God commanded him to do.

 

[101G]

Can we see similarity with Phil 2… Jesus Christ, though anointed with the Spirit of God (which is the Power and Authority of God - See Acts 10: 37-38)), did not think to claim equality with God but humbled himself to do only what God commanded him to do.

NO, for God is his OWN POWER in Flesh... see Isaiah 63:5..... Oh how Ignorant. .... Oh dear.

101G.

 

[Soapy]

NO, for God is his OWN POWER in Flesh... see Isaiah 63:5..... Oh how Ignorant. .... Oh dear.

101G.

What do you mean?

 

[Watchmen]

Throughout the scriptures significant statements are made concerning ‘God’ and ‘Jesus [Christ]’.

However, many people claim that Jesus IS GOD despite many differences between them.

Some instances:

1. ‘God’ is called ‘The Father’, while Jesus is called ‘The Son’
2. ‘Jesus’ is also the NAME of this son but ‘YHWH’ is the name of Gods
3. God is never seen but Jesus is seen many times
4. Jesus was born a sinless human but God is never born
5. ‘Jesus’ means ‘He who saves’ and we read that God sent him to do so … Jesus BECAME the saviour. But God is immutable and never BECOMES anything other than what He already was!
6. God (‘YHWH’) is called ‘Father’, which means:
   1. ‘He who gives life’
   2. ‘He who brings into being’
   3. ‘He who creates’
7. God is the one SEATED on the throne envisioned in Heaven - but Jesus is envisioned as a lamb ‘looking as though slaughtered’ STANDING in front and centre of that throne on which God is seated…
8. The first martyr, Stephen, in vision, looked up into heaven and saw ‘God’ seated on his throne, and, Jesus STANDING next to God. And we know that he who is seated in such a situation is the one in power, and the one standing next to him is in a support position
9. Jesus is GIVEN / GRANTED many things but God is the one who gives / grants Jesus (things of power)

His is it said that Jesus is ‘EQUAL TO/WITH GOD’ and ‘IS GOD’, given the revelations shown above in the bullet points.

Please refer to the relevant bullet points in your responses in order to directly address the question.

I’m not a Christian, but your post demonstrates a limited knowledge and understanding of the relationship between God and Jesus.

 

[Soapy]

I’m not a Christian, but your post demonstrates a limited knowledge and understanding of the relationship between God and Jesus.

You are right - you aren’t a Christian. Well said!!

 

[101G]

What do you mean?

God in Flesh

101G.

 

[Soapy]

God in Flesh

101G.

No such concept.

Jesus is a man born holy and sinless as the scriptures says.

If Jesus was God there would be no need to say he was sinless and holy.

If Jesus was God there would be no need for God to anoint him with the spirit of God.

If Jesus was God there would be no need for God to declare Jesus as ‘My Son in whom I am well pleased’.

If Jesus was God there would be no need for God to declare him as adopted: ‘This day I have become your Father’.

If Jesus was God then Jesus could not have been seated at the right hand of God.

If Jesus was God then God could not have granted all things to be in his (Jesus) hands (for a limited time!).

If Jesus was God …..

 

[101G]

Jesus is a man born holy and sinless as the scriptures says.

Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
Form here is Nature, meaning Spirit, for God is a Spirit, and this Spirit is "EQUAL WITH" God. but God has no EQUAL, deductive reasoning states he is God in Flesh. simple acid test, Hebrews 2:9 "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

now think....... if the Lord Jesus was made Lower than the ANGELS, then he was HIGHER than the angels before being made lower than them. common sense dictates he must be God, for there are only three entities. A. God. B. angels. and C. us humans. a first grader can tell us that if he was made lower than the angels, then again, common sense tells us he was HIGHER than the angels before he was made lower than the angels...... meaning he is God.

if one cannot understand that........ see you.

101G.

 

[Soapy]

Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"
Form here is Nature, meaning Spirit, for God is a Spirit, and this Spirit is "EQUAL WITH" God. but God has no EQUAL, deductive reasoning states he is God in Flesh. simple acid test, Hebrews 2:9 "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."

now think....... if the Lord Jesus was made Lower than the ANGELS, then he was HIGHER than the angels before being made lower than them. common sense dictates he must be God, for there are only three entities. A. God. B. angels. and C. us humans. a first grader can tell us that if he was made lower than the angels, then again, common sense tells us he was HIGHER than the angels before he was made lower than the angels...... meaning he is God.

if one cannot understand that........ see you.

101G.

You are still thrashing… running from one failed ideology to another… and still failing.

God cannot be made lower. That is a nonsense.

God is IMMUTABLE. He cannot change. That’s why His name is ‘YHWH’. His name describes his Being… an immortal, invisible, immutable and, almighty Being.

Jesus is a Man, born as holy and sinless BY the overshadowing of a woman by the Spirit of God.
All others of mankind except the first man, Adam, were born of unholy sinful seed of the offspring of Adam who brought sin into the seed of all offspring of mankind. Jesus is not an offspring of mankind but a NEW MAN, a second Adam. No other sinless, holy, fully righteous man would ever be created hence Jesus is also the ‘LAST ADAM’:

• ‘So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, [became] a life-giving spirit.” (1 Cor 15:45)

‘Became a living Spirit’… After Jesus was raised up to Heaven. Adam the first: The beginning. Adam the last: the end!!

One Adam brought death by sin to all and another Adam bought salvation from sin to all::: Quid Pro Quo!

How does it prove that man can live without sinning if it is God who lays down his life to pay the penalty for man’s sins?

The test God set mankind was for a man unblemished and sinless man to lay down his life did the sins of Adam. This is reminded by the yearly sacrifice of an unblemished lamb - though this sacrifice served only as a reminder and could never fulfil the demand of God. Jesus Christ, a man unblemished, holy, and righteous, fulfilled that role which wiped away the sin of Adam, a sin that had brought death to all mankind irrespective of their piousness.

One death to satisfy all. It’s all in the scriptures which I hope you agree to.

 

[101G]

You are still thrashing… running from one failed ideology to another… and still failing.

and u cannot read.... lol, lol, lol, Oh dear.

God cannot be made lower. That is a nonsense.

so, you don't believe the scriptures...... thought so, nor do you understand them. LOL, Oh my.....

God is IMMUTABLE. He cannot change. That’s why His name is ‘YHWH’. His name describes his Being… an immortal, invisible, immutable and, almighty Being.

did he not repent when he made man? Genesis 6:6 "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." but did not God say all he created was GOOD?

now physical Change. Matthew 17:1 "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart," Matthew 17:2 "And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light."

now, since you said Jesus is just a man as u and I, ok then transfigure yourself, and we all can witness your face shine brighter than the sun. just one thing. let 101G know when you are going to transfigure yourself so 101G can have his sunglasses on.... (smile) ... YIKES! .... LOL, LOL. Oh dear.

so, God had a change of mind on making man, and he change his appearance on the mountain,, ...... NEXT......

How does it prove that man can live without sinning if it is God who lays down his life to pay the penalty for man’s sins?

one little word... "Forgiveness, because of our BINDING COVENANT in God, Listen and Learn. 1 Timothy 1:9 "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, (and our Righteousness is in God, Jesus the Christ), but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,"

did you hear the scriptures? "KNOWING THIS", apparently you didn't "KNOW THAT" ..... LOL, LOL, Oh dear... YIKS!

101G.

 

[Soapy]

and u cannot read.... lol, lol, lol, Oh dear.

so, you don't believe the scriptures...... thought so, nor do you understand them. LOL, Oh my.....

did he not repent when he made man? Genesis 6:6 "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart." but did not God say all he created was GOOD?

now physical Change. Matthew 17:1 "And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart," Matthew 17:2 "And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light."

now, since you said Jesus is just a man as u and I, ok then transfigure yourself, and we all can witness your face shine brighter than the sun. just one thing. let 101G know when you are going to transfigure yourself so 101G can have his sunglasses on.... (smile) ... YIKES! .... LOL, LOL. Oh dear.

so, God had a change of mind on making man, and he change his appearance on the mountain,, ...... NEXT......


one little word... "Forgiveness, because of our BINDING COVENANT in God, Listen and Learn. 1 Timothy 1:9 "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, (and our Righteousness is in God, Jesus the Christ), but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,"

did you hear the scriptures? "KNOWING THIS", apparently you didn't "KNOW THAT" ..... LOL, LOL, Oh dear... YIKS!

101G.

Please stop and think what you are saying. I know you are just joking but joking too much can lead you into severe sin. I urge you to stop now!!

‘JESUS CHANGED’!! GOD does not change.

You said yourself that ‘Jesus BECAME man…’ To BECOME implies a change of being.
God never changes his Being… that is why He is ‘YHWH’: ‘He is what he is’!

What you are doing is to say that Jesus (to you) is ‘God’ AND that since Jesus Changed then ‘God’ changed. No! 101G, that is a false ideology.

Jesus was transfigured. NO ONE KNOWS exactly what caused the transfiguration nor what exactly it means. But if God spoke to (or about Jesus) during the transfiguration then how is Jesus ‘God’. He was talking to himself? What happened to the Spirit of God as God during that event? Trinity is THREE… There were SEVERAL THREES there:

1. Jesus and two disciples
2. God and Jesus and (disciples as a group)
3. God, Moses, and Elijah
4. Jesus, Moses, and Elijah

Which trinity has God, Jesus, and the Spirit of God?

 

[Betho_br]

In the Bible, the term "Elohim" is often used to refer to God, but it can also refer to divine beings such as angels or magistrates. The word is plural in Hebrew, but it is often used with a singular verb, which is a unique feature in the Hebrew language.

In some contexts, especially in the Old Testament (Tanakh), "Elohim" is used to refer to God as the Creator and Sovereign of the universe. In other contexts, it may refer to judges or rulers, as in Psalm 82:1, where it says, "God [Elohim] has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment."

The interpretation of these uses of "Elohim" can vary depending on theological perspective and the Bible translation being used. Some interpret it as a reference to divine beings, while others consider it a way of describing God, but it is a point of theological debate and interpretation.

The statement "Jesus is Elohim" suggests a theological belief that Jesus is God or a divine being, which is a concept in certain Christian traditions. However, it's important to note that not all Christian denominations hold this exact belief, and theological interpretations can vary. Some Christians believe that Jesus is the Son of God or part of the Holy Trinity, while others may have different views. The use of the term "Elohim" to refer to Jesus is not universally accepted among all Christian groups.

In the Quran, Jesus (known as "Isa" in Arabic) is mentioned as "the Word of God" (كَلِمَةُ ٱللَّهِ) in several passages. Islamic belief holds that Jesus is an important figure and that he was created by God through His word, similar to the creation of Adam. He is a special creation of God with a significant prophetic role.