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What are your biggest problems as a seeker?

torrentialrain

New Member
What do you find most difficult and/or most unclear?

What kind of guidance do you desperately wish existed -- but isn't there, or isn't very good?
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
What do you find most difficult and/or most unclear?

What kind of guidance do you desperately wish existed -- but isn't there, or isn't very good?
Hmmm. For me it was quickly moving beyond the grasp of friends and family. The huge problem was that I could not articulate what was going on inside my brain and often trapped myself in religious symbolism. Eventually, I just shut up, and almost immediately things got better for me and my daily life got better. It was almost as if I wasn't supposed to share my experience. Not at the time, at least.

Now, with the "burn period" long over, and having taken up TM as well and immersing myself in what has become known as Lucid Dreaming, I've come full circle and now have my feet planted firmly on the ground. Since I didn't speak on various topics or give any clues about what I continued to go through people treated me more like a person instead of this inconvenient weirdo they could not understand. I became "the Actor" and simply disappeared in the camouflage of daily life. I managed to figure out how to not leave footprints in the snow. 30 years passed and finally I began to write my story. Strangely, I discovered that I now could find ways to express difficult concepts in a manner that others could relate to. For example, when I arrived at RF 12-1/2 years ago I was genuinely stunned to find my wild ideas, not only entertained, but found some acceptance for them here and there.

I didn't really need any guidance, per se, as I had an evolving idea about personality that allowed me to connect with reality in a peculiar way. For example, when I began studying the religions of the world, I wasn't looking for answers. I already had those. What I was looking for was confirmation that I wasn't the only one. I was heartened to discover that I wasn't the only one going through these strange things and that helped to neuter an all too eager Messiah complex. Finally, I ended up studying modern psychology with a particular emphasis on the works of Carl Jung. It's at that point that I really began to feel normal and allowed me to begin writing. (That was a few years prior to joining RF, but not many.)

In the weirdest way, I understand, that the person I am now, was the being that encouraged my younger self to explore further and further. As a young person, I always had the sensation that something/someone was watching, but never dreamed it was me watching myself from afar. Talk about spooky actions at a distance.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What do you find most difficult and/or most unclear?

What kind of guidance do you desperately wish existed -- but isn't there, or isn't very good?
One day I gave up seeking. Just gave up.

Something interesting happens when you get to a point where you just quiet down and not put any thought or temptation to embellish and fabricate anything you subjectively and objectively experience.

Things tend to come out of the "woodwork" that way of which you may not have realized that had been there all the time.

I think seeking is a preoccupation for seeking something that has been with you since day one.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
What do you find most difficult and/or most unclear?

What kind of guidance do you desperately wish existed -- but isn't there, or isn't very good?

When I was seeking, the thing that bothered me was finding my roots. I felt that if I knew my family origin and practices that some were not all abrahamic, Id find more about myself in general. Then I realize my family doeant want to open up. The younger generation think maybe they are scares "whites" may take them or something. I also found family doesnt want to be family themselves. You cant really find union with those who dont want it.

Another thing that got me while I sought was lack of community. When I did found a community, I found how much comformity and discipline is expected of members. Im more individual and find my uniqueness in myself.

Odd ball things like cant speak any of the language at our nearby temples. Then, after rumging through ancestors, catholicism, and buddhism (which wasnt something I sought. It is a revelation of facts), I took a toll on my life.

Although not a religion, it dawned on me what helps me heal, be unique, find solace, and fun is, to put it bluntly, my creativity. Ive been using art to help myself as people pray snd others meditate. So far Im working with my doctor getting through junk my art therapy.

So thats were I am and will be when it comes to seeking. Im already where I need to be, just Ive stoped running around in circles to find me
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
What do you find most difficult...

Since I was a child, I needed to know how everything works. I remember taking my first mini-bike apart to see what made it go. Unfortunately, when I put it back together I had a bunch of spare parts and it never worked again.

So suppose my greatest difficulty was in discovering that there is that which is inaccessible to human intellect.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What do you find most difficult and/or most unclear?

What kind of guidance do you desperately wish existed -- but isn't there, or isn't very good?
Developing an income where I live out in the bookies sort of. . I Really have no time for full time city life but as a construction type well one is stuck with city folk!!
 

H3ather

Imaginative
What do you find most difficult and/or most unclear?

What kind of guidance do you desperately wish existed -- but isn't there, or isn't very good?

The most difficult thing for me is living in the middle of a bible belt. I am surrounded by Christians who keep trying to push this God person and this Jesus guy on me. I've looked at the Christian bible and I don't believe in a lot of things that are in it. Every time I tell a Christian that I disagree or I don't believe, they tell me that I need to get saved or that I am going to hell. So, it's kind of hard to search for a different religion when Christianity is so heavy where I live.

I wish that religious freedom and acceptance were more popular. Most popular religions still frown upon other religions because they do not practice what they believe. It's frustrating because I wish I had someone personally to help me that isn't a Christian. That's hard to find where I live.
 

idea

Question Everything
What do you find most difficult and/or most unclear?

What kind of guidance do you desperately wish existed -- but isn't there, or isn't very good?

I had this dream that sums up how I feel - it started out feeling like a nightmare. In it, I was hired help, a shepherd looking over a flock of sheep, and there was this dark forest that felt like wolves and monsters would soon be there... so I was thinking about what I was willing to do to protect the sheep, if I would stay or run when the wolves came - only the wolves never came. The sun started setting, and I had the impression the sheep were supposed to go into their pen - I suppose as a hired shepherd it was my job to get them there, but the sheep went on their own - like they did not need me. I watched them dutifully line up and follow their nightly ritual, then closed the gate after them and saw them all snuggle into their family groups... with the setting sun I felt alone - the sheep had one another, they were all cozied up together - and I was a person on a horse on the other side of the fence. I wanted to be a sheep, but I was not a sheep, never would be. I suppose they would put up with me, be polite to me, but I would never be one of them... as the hired help I should have stayed to watch over them through the night, the fence was not secure - instead, feeling rejected, I rode my horse off into the woods. The woods started out being a scary place - by the end of the dream, they were not scary any more, the woods were beautiful, with no monsters or wolves. I was still alone, but it was ok. The stars were out, it was beautiful.
 

tayla

My dog's name is Tayla
What do you find most difficult and/or most unclear?

What kind of guidance do you desperately wish existed -- but isn't there, or isn't very good?
I used to want to know everything about the spiritual realm. I now realize this is not possible.

I wish there was someone who knew the answers. But I now believe that neither revealed religions nor revealed spiritual paths are sources of truth. The only provable knowledge is based on the scientific method when limited to its proper domain.

This doesn't mean I don't believe unprovable things; things having, in my view, adequate evidence. The physical realm without the spiritual ream is a drab place indeed.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
I wish that religious freedom and acceptance were more popular. Most popular religions still frown upon other religions because they do not practice what they believe. It's frustrating because I wish I had someone personally to help me that isn't a Christian. That's hard to find where I live.
Christianity frowns on all the other religions because they believe they are the only true religion. :oops:
You might not be able to find anyone eher you live, but maybe you can find someone online. :D
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
Since I was a child, I needed to know how everything works. I remember taking my first mini-bike apart to see what made it go. Unfortunately, when I put it back together I had a bunch of spare parts and it never worked again.

So suppose my greatest difficulty was in discovering that there is that which is inaccessible to human intellect.
The mini-bike is a perfect analogy for what I do with religions. I take them apart, and they never go back together again quite the same. I could have just kept riding them without tearing into them to see how they worked, but no. Now they are all broken with a lot of spare parts scattered all over the place.
 

osgart

Nothing my eye, Something for sure
What do you find most difficult and/or most unclear?

What kind of guidance do you desperately wish existed -- but isn't there, or isn't very good?

Ive defaulted to my own unique religious path. It is most difficult to prove that a spiritual realm does or does not exist.

I dont believe there is a god but i am drawn to theological arguments for the existence of something beyond the temporal universe.

So much out there claims to know with authority what has not been proven or disproven yet.

I cant find anything out there that can be a source of guidance for independent religious thinkers.
 

Podo

Member
The biggest issue I've seen with seeking is the overwhelming amount of people from all faiths that focus more on getting you into their congregation, rather than answering your questions. This is behaviour that I've seen disproportionately in Abrahamic faiths than other ones, but it's still present in others. I've not had any of these issues in here in particular, but humans in the real world tend to be very, very bad about discussing their religions in anything resembling a detached manner.
 
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