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Subduction Zone
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Watching it right now as I write this. But science denial is a huge problem in the US.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Good job Americans don't need computers or cars or fridges or clean water or aeroplanes then. Some of them certainly don't seem to need education or healthcare.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I have found one of the best defenses against reason is cognitive dissonance. People that can otherwise reason rationally suddenly find that they can't reason when their cherished beliefs are threatened. Quite often they do not even want to learn how they are wrong. They want to believe what they believe too much.Good job Americans don't need computers or cars or fridges or clean water or aeroplanes then. Some of them certainly don't seem to need education or healthcare.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Yeah, and we all know why.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Are you forgetting your own massive cognitive dissonance when it came to homeopathy? You would not even discuss how we know that it is a fraud.Yeah, and we all know why.
I agree with many of their points, especially about people becoming more interested in the climate issue when they realize they can make money off of it.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
That would not be a discussion since you already have your mind made up, it would only be a lecture.
I do not believe that homeopathy is a fraud and I never will, so what is there to discuss?
You cannot argue that homeopathy is fraudulent on any logical basis so if you tried to present such an argument you would only make yourself look foolish.
Homeopathy, a popular therapy worldwide
Around the world, more than 300 million people in at least 70 countries use homeopathy either alone or in combination with other care to treat themselves [1]. The use of this therapy is growing, particularly in certain areas of the world such as Northern Europe, where life expectancy is one of the highest in the world.
The worldwide growth of homeopathy
Throughout the world, complementary medicine, and predominantly homeopathy, is increasingly being considered a powerful ally to conventional medicine. It exists in almost every country in the world, and the demand for services in this area is on the rise.
Examples of countries that recognise this complementary medicine are India, China, Mexico, the United States, Brazil, South Africa, Germany, Belgium, Switzerland and Great Britain.
Homeopathy is now considered a branch of medicine and the pharmaceutical industry in its own right, especially in northern European countries like Sweden, Norway and Finland. These states, whose health systems are recognised for their quality, have made homeopathy an integral part of the care pathway.
The population also considers homeopathy to be an easy-access and affordable practice [2]. This makes it particularly attractive as healthcare costs have soared over the past few years. Homeopathy also appears to be a way of dealing with the inevitable occurrence of chronic non-communicable diseases, particularly in winter.
It should also be noted that homeopathy is deeply rooted in the culture and history of European countries, since its invention in 1796 by German doctor Samuel Hahnemann. It has proven itself for more than two centuries, inspiring the public’s confidence.
Northern European countries like Sweden, Norway and Finland, whose health systems are recognised for their quality, have made homeopathy an integral part of the care pathway.
A level of integration that varies from country to country
In countries where it is well positioned within the care pathway, homeopathy is treated differently in terms of its management and coverage by the health insurance system.
In Finland, when homeopathy is practised by an allopathic doctor, it can be covered by the social insurance system.
In Germany, the birthplace of homeopathy, this treatment is still very popular with patients and is recognised by the authorities. Two types of therapists are allowed to practice the discipline: homeopaths with degree qualifications and homeopathic doctors.
In 2019, German Minister of Health Jens Spahn (CDU) definitively voted in favour of the reimbursement of homeopathic medicines by insurance schemes. Homeopathic care is reimbursed by both the German public and private health system, and practitioners also benefit from public and private funding for homeopathic doctors and exclusively private funding for non-doctor homeopaths (Heilpraktiker).
Switzerland, the first country in Europe to integrate homeopathy into the healthcare system, included this therapy in its Constitution in 2009. It is also one of the countries where homeopathy is fully covered by health insurance.
Click here to find out more about the national health policy in Switzerland.
In 2019, German Minister of Health Jens Spahn (CDU) definitively voted in favour of the reimbursement of homeopathic medicines by insurance schemes.
India, the homeland of homeopathy!
India, known as the “land of homeopathy”, has more than 217,000 homeopathic doctors according to the Homeopaths Without Borders association. Recognised and promoted by the government, homeopathy is naturally prescribed there and represents a branch of medicine in its own right[3].
Indian homeopaths work in more than 230 homeopathic hospitals and 6,000 clinics[4]. Delhi, which had 28 homeopathic clinics in 1978, now has 78[5].
Homeopathy is also the second officially recognised medicine by the Indian State, which has specifically created a ministry of Ayurveda, Yoga, Naturopathy, Unani, Siddha and Homeopathy, the six traditional medicine systems recognised in this country. Lastly, homeopathy is now taught in over 500 higher education institutions (high schools) in India, and homeopathic services are reimbursed by the national health service.
[1] Source: Homeopathy White Paper: https://www.boiron.fr/sites/boironfr/files/content/files/livre-blanc-quelle-place-pour-l-homeopathie-dans-l-offre-de-soins.pdf
[2] WHO Report, WHO Strategy for Traditional Medicine 2014-2023 https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/95009/9789242506099_fre.pdf?sequence=1
[3] L’homéopathie, une situation contrastée au niveau international
[4] Source: Homeopaths Without Borders, Letter 33-2011: Situation de l'homéopathie en Inde – Homéopathes Sans Frontières - France
[5] https://www.business-standard.com/a...-in-alternative-therapies-109063000153_1.html
Homeopathy, a popular therapy worldwide | Mon Homéo Mon Choix
You misunderstand -- a lot of Americans think that God provides all of those commodities. And who needs healthcare when you have prayer (though, oddly, quite a large chunk of people do seem to accept healthcare when the prayer isn't working quite as advertised.)Good job Americans don't need computers or cars or fridges or clean water or aeroplanes then. Some of them certainly don't seem to need education or healthcare.
Well...more like they avoid cognitive dissonance by choosing to defend existing beliefs against new information, I think?
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Just watching a program about the holdup for cargo in the U.S. and the billions being made just because cargo containers are not being handled well at the ports. Prices will go up, no doubt. All in line with Bible prophecy, science or no science.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Sorry, but that is not evidence.
That people are taken in by a hoax is not evidence for a hoax. You forgot how you yourself proved that it was pseudoscience.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
No, that is not a prophecy. That is cherry picking. There do not appear to be any valid prophecies in the Bible.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Regardless of what people think about prayer, I go to "bona fide" legitimate MD's and they made a few calls that were wrong. And seriously so. They weren't mistakes such as a slip of the knife. They were wrong decisions. My prayers are not for instant healing, etc. So it wouldn't be right to lump all believers together in one bag, so to speak.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
When secret fake science said...
Th is isesus king.
The question was this. Why.
TH was the O THOTH numbers reasoned by scientists only. Human.
IsIs old Egyptian terms of science about dead things.
This is answered why. What you all believe in life was sacrificed.
Why the ground was minused by ∆^sus nose point pyramid temple science.
∆ into - minus = ^ nose point Sus.
An answer.
This question. What do you think of this.
Thin king. King A direct human head mind brain answer I got brain burnt chemical irradiated prickled by thinking on behalf of evil nuclear sciences.
The founding American father said it's all about STone. Stone masons. Founding a country not on rich man's controls or technology.
Once a civilization lived in stone buildings we were happy. It was all destroyed. Memory of a better life.
America non stop release of movies depicting their own country decimated buildings collapsing got warned by their spiritual father's. The native American Indian. Who said he did not want to emigrate leave American soil nuked life.
Please don't use technology against life.
Yet you did.
Th is isesus king.
The question was this. Why.
TH was the O THOTH numbers reasoned by scientists only. Human.
IsIs old Egyptian terms of science about dead things.
This is answered why. What you all believe in life was sacrificed.
Why the ground was minused by ∆^sus nose point pyramid temple science.
∆ into - minus = ^ nose point Sus.
An answer.
This question. What do you think of this.
Thin king. King A direct human head mind brain answer I got brain burnt chemical irradiated prickled by thinking on behalf of evil nuclear sciences.
The founding American father said it's all about STone. Stone masons. Founding a country not on rich man's controls or technology.
Once a civilization lived in stone buildings we were happy. It was all destroyed. Memory of a better life.
America non stop release of movies depicting their own country decimated buildings collapsing got warned by their spiritual father's. The native American Indian. Who said he did not want to emigrate leave American soil nuked life.
Please don't use technology against life.
Yet you did.
What prophecy is that in line with?
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Alternate Medicine is a big farce in India and a waste of money.
It benefits many. There are departments of each alternate medicine in the Central and State governments. And their are ministers, secretaries, additional secretaries and deputy secretaries, who are provided lavish housing and fat salaries. Then there are hospitals, doctors, nursing and clerical staff and helpers. Funds are provided by the government and contracts are given for medicines and services, which allow these people to siphon funds. Whether it all helps the people or not is not a consideration. If the medication fails, then there are modern medicine to fall back on. Then there are colleges, teachers, and staff in these institutions. Student who cannot get admission in modern medical colleges because of substandard grades are absorbed in these colleges. Then there are companies who produce medicines for alternate medicine systems. There is no scientific checking of the efficacy of these medicines, no standardization of medicines and no price control. Clinics for alternate medicine exist in all streets in India. It is a big provider of jobs.
The current right-wing Indian government promotes Ayurveda, and consequently, has to support other alternate streams of medicine also. Of course, Ayurveda takes the biggest portion of the cake.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
The native American spiritual God father was not mining America's resources for rich men.
His natural life DNA nation owner is first.
Greedy rich men who lied about owning America to strip it of it's resources gained life recorded with his life.
Memories shared told him artificially of your greedy rich man's intentions in a future of where greedy men go.
He knew resourcing led to technology leads to life's destruction. So he told your story English and world community invasion what your future intention would Mean.
In his national land. He was the memory I own no greedy man's intention. If you believed in his teachings you would not be a scientist.
Did so naturally by his own living spirituality. It owns no ABBA numbered O lettered code for your reference inferences. Can I find it and use it against humanity AI status.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
If you are claiming it is a hoax you have the burden of proof.
Pseudoscience is just a word but it does not mean homeopathy is a hoax.
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