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what do non religious people think about abortion?
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Ciscokid
Well-Known Member
jakp said:
I am against abortion because I believe it is used mostly by irresponsible people who don't want to take care of a child. Rather than being responsible up front and using protection they have a Dr. suck it out.
Now I know there are times when people have abortions for other reasons...but I am VERY against making abortion a common thing...especially the late term abortions.
DakotaGypsy
Active Member
Abortion is a medical procedure. It is an invasive procedure and, hopefully, with comprehensive sex education that goes beyond abstinence only available to youth and with informed and easy accessibility to contraception, the incidence of abortion will decrease. There will never cease to be a need, however, for safe, legal and accessible abortion.
Contraception fails, women are forced to have sex against their will or forced to have sex without contraception, people fail to use contraception, a pregnancy may threaten the life or the health of the pregnant woman, it may be determined that the fetus is gravely deformed and its forced birth will burden its parents with the spectacle of seeing it slowly die after birth or suffer a life of grave and painful deformity.
Contraception fails, women are forced to have sex against their will or forced to have sex without contraception, people fail to use contraception, a pregnancy may threaten the life or the health of the pregnant woman, it may be determined that the fetus is gravely deformed and its forced birth will burden its parents with the spectacle of seeing it slowly die after birth or suffer a life of grave and painful deformity.
Mathematician
Reason, and reason again
Violating the woman's right to have an abortion also means violating her right to live how she wants. Are we going to throw women in jail who can't cut smoking and get miscarriages because of it? What if they don't eat enough, or eat the wrong types of food? What if they drink, participate in dangerous activities/sports, misuse a drug? These incidents can be on purpose and on accident.
Too shady to ban. And then there's rape. I find not allowing a raped woman an abortion the most disgusting thing ever, but that's just me.
Too shady to ban. And then there's rape. I find not allowing a raped woman an abortion the most disgusting thing ever, but that's just me.
Malkav's Knight
Member
Abortion should not be used as a way of birth control. If Miss Cant keep her legs closed gets pregnant, no Abortion.
Only in cases of rape or if the life of the mother and/or child, before 3rd trimester, is in danger, then an abortion should be legal. I say 3rd trimster because medically, a fetus born in the 2nd trimester has little chance of living. And if i can be born, it has little chance of having a fully functional brain or being able to even support itself without life preserving machinery.
Only in cases of rape or if the life of the mother and/or child, before 3rd trimester, is in danger, then an abortion should be legal. I say 3rd trimster because medically, a fetus born in the 2nd trimester has little chance of living. And if i can be born, it has little chance of having a fully functional brain or being able to even support itself without life preserving machinery.
PureX
Veteran Member
I think most people believe abortion is wrong, whether they're religious or not. The difference seems to be that some people believe that abortion should be outlawed, while others believe that it should be an individual's choice. I don't know how much religion effects these differences.
Mr Spinkles
Mr
I believe precisely the same thing, though I am not Catholic. The only difference is that I don't believe sperm, egg, fertilized egg, or even a few dozen stem cells constitutes an alive human being.Victor said:
I do believe, however, that a fetus in the 2nd or 3rd trimester is an alive human being, and should not be killed except when such an action is the only humane option (as in harlequin fetus) or if the lives of mother and/or child are in danger.
Malkav's Knight
Member
Mr Spinkles said:
So are you all for Stem Cell research?
Mr Spinkles
Mr
Absolutely. A stem cell is not a person any more than liver cells are a person.Malkav's Knight said:
Malkav's Knight
Member
Good...
It is unethical to kill a person for convenience.
Mr Spinkles
Mr
Hey, I was only answering the wo/man's question.Victor said:
finalfrogo
Well-Known Member
jakp said:
Even some Christians can believe that abortion is right is some cases or all the time.
Remember, the question isn't as simple as "Is abortion right or wrong?" because one must consider instances in which the mother has been raped, or her health may be at risk because of the pregnancy.
Therefore, the primary question is more akin to "Under what circumstances is abortion right?"
DakotaGypsy
Active Member
What do you mean, precisely?Jayhawker Soule said:
bunny1ohio
Active Member
jakp said:
Hey a post designed just for me *eyes gleam*...
I happen to be a non-religious person.... but I look at it this way... abortion should be legal in 3 circumstances...1) Rape
2) Incest
3) Extreme medical risk to mother or baby to carry to deliverable term (not FULL term... deliverable)
Other than those 3 reasons.... no... it is murder plain and simple.
If a man gets mad when his girlfriend gets pregnant and punches her in the stomach he doesn't just go to jail for assault... he goes for attempted murder :tsk: So why if another person causes a woman to lose a baby is it murder... but if she CHOOSES to lose that baby... oh well that's ok then? :149: no its not!
Wilson Wilson
Member
Abortion is a difficult subject for me. I will not and can not judge others who do have or had abortions. I believe women should have a right to choose. I feel bad for the unborn child regardless what stage the fetus. I feel bad for the women who makes that choice as well. Maybe some women could care less but I know it can be a regretful decision for some later. I know terrible things that happen to some women that have to make that choice. It seems easy for me to just say I am against it as I will never have to face that choice. I have gone as far to offer someone I care for to take care of her baby after it would be born. I can not do that for everyone and I can not offer any better solution than the few that are available.
NulliuSINverba
Active Member
Which explains why no Christian has ever killed another human being in an armed conflict, right?
I dunno. It could also be that Christianity dates from a time when women were the property of men and didn't have any say whatsoever about what the tribe did with their bodies.
See: "Machines, Baby-Making."