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What Do Theists, Atheists Think of Big Time Atheist Pen Jillette's Conversion to Christianity?

This video is hard to find on Youtube because there is interest in scrubbing it. I'm curious to think what everyone thinks.


For those unfamiliar, Penn was an extreme, extreme atheist with series such as BS on the Bible which I've seen. If you try to find this video on your own you will run into countless of his old videos where is just taking it to Christianity. So, he was an affirmed Atheist.

From my perspective you don't change your mind ever from arguments or lectures or sermons. It's not as if someone who so determined in their thoughts can be convinced by anything said. My knowledge, knowing the back story is he saw miracles. I know the back story but I won't share it, the miracles weren't slight and they were huge. He's healthy so it wasn't something like facing death, it was something more profound.

If you compare this video with his other videos, he looks so much more happy and relaxed. How does everyone feel about this?
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
This video is hard to find on Youtube because there is interest in scrubbing it. I'm curious to think what everyone thinks.


For those unfamiliar, Penn was an extreme, extreme atheist with series such as BS on the Bible which I've seen. If you try to find this video on your own you will run into countless of his old videos where is just taking it to Christianity. So, he was an affirmed Atheist.

From my perspective you don't change your mind ever from arguments or lectures or sermons. It's not as if someone who so determined in their thoughts can be convinced by anything said. My knowledge, knowing the back story is he saw miracles. I know the back story but I won't share it, the miracles weren't slight and they were huge. He's healthy so it wasn't something like facing death, it was something more profound.

If you compare this video with his other videos, he looks so much more happy and relaxed. How does everyone feel about this?
You didn't watch the whole video, did you?
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I love how these types of threads and arguments so perfectly encapsulate so much about so many religious people. They don't even have the barest surface of curiosity or skepticism about anything they hear, read, or see, and no basic desire to confirm or double-check any piece of information if they perceive that it supports their position. These attributes apply to everything they take in, and everything they communicate back out.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
This video is hard to find on Youtube because there is interest in scrubbing it. I'm curious to think what everyone thinks.


For those unfamiliar, Penn was an extreme, extreme atheist with series such as BS on the Bible which I've seen. If you try to find this video on your own you will run into countless of his old videos where is just taking it to Christianity. So, he was an affirmed Atheist.

From my perspective you don't change your mind ever from arguments or lectures or sermons. It's not as if someone who so determined in their thoughts can be convinced by anything said. My knowledge, knowing the back story is he saw miracles. I know the back story but I won't share it, the miracles weren't slight and they were huge. He's healthy so it wasn't something like facing death, it was something more profound.

If you compare this video with his other videos, he looks so much more happy and relaxed. How does everyone feel about this?

I encourage everyone to watch this video from beginning to end. It is deeply moving.
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
I know the back story but I won't share it, the miracles weren't slight and they were huge. He's healthy so it wasn't something like facing death, it was something more profound.

Having watched the full video, I am really interested in hearing about this "something more profound".
 
I love you guys, you are kicking my butt but I love you guys. Sorry, sorry, sorry, this gives me a huge black eye. Please think I'm crazy but don't think I'm a liar; I don't mind being crazy but I'm not a liar. There was a video I saw over the summer time, it trended and I can't find it anymore....but, fine, you will never believe me. Please forgive me.

I'll watch the whole thing.
 
This is a beautiful video. How do I write this, I think what Penn is telling us all is do not be ideological. What made him reflect was meeting a Middle Eastern Atheist, not theorizing a Muslim.

I'm 35 (May 1, 1981) and I lived in a California before 9/11 if you are a young person you do not know what that means. I grew up in a place called Garden Grove where there is a big Vietnamese, Korean, Muslim, Hispanic community. And you know what? We were all friends. I don't live there anymore so I don't know what it is like. To me Islamaphobia is not something I think about or discuss, it's not a conflict or reality. Growing up with Muslims I just don't feel it. Now, my point is I'm not an atheist I am a Catholic but you don't have to be Atheist to love Muslims and many Atheists don't. (you can't suppose Trump is a sincerely religious man)
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I love you guys, you are kicking my butt but I love you guys. Sorry, sorry, sorry, this gives me a huge black eye. Please think I'm crazy but don't think I'm a liar; I don't mind being crazy but I'm not a liar. There was a video I saw over the summer time, it trended and I can't find it anymore....but, fine, you will never believe me. Please forgive me.

I'll watch the whole thing.

No worries.:) If the worst black eye you get is from an internet forum, you are fortunate indeed.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I strongly believe in God and thought that Penn was laying it on the line perfectly. What he said applies no matter whether or not one is an atheist or not.

And in fact, a Christian might say approximately what he said with the addition of quoting a bit of the Sermon on the Mount for emphasis.

Muslims in the US and elsewhere have offered and have in fact protected Jewish sites.

True members of every religion or no religion reach out to others they recognize as fellow human brothers and sisters even if they, as he said, believe the other is wrong.
 
This video is hard to find on Youtube because there is interest in scrubbing it. I'm curious to think what everyone thinks.


For those unfamiliar, Penn was an extreme, extreme atheist with series such as BS on the Bible which I've seen. If you try to find this video on your own you will run into countless of his old videos where is just taking it to Christianity. So, he was an affirmed Atheist.

From my perspective you don't change your mind ever from arguments or lectures or sermons. It's not as if someone who so determined in their thoughts can be convinced by anything said. My knowledge, knowing the back story is he saw miracles. I know the back story but I won't share it, the miracles weren't slight and they were huge. He's healthy so it wasn't something like facing death, it was something more profound.

If you compare this video with his other videos, he looks so much more happy and relaxed. How does everyone feel about this?

If Penn Jillette was honest and truthful, he would admit only that he is an "Agnostic".

There are no "Atheists" - because in truth, they cannot disprove "God" - so in truth, they "don't know".
There are no "Christians" - because in truth, they cannot prove "God" - so in truth, they "don't know".
- neither of these two types of individuals can confirm what they say is factual.....they only guess or mimic what some other men have stated.

Penn Jillette would be no different.
 

Gmcbroom

Member
I'm Catholic and I watched the video. While I was disappointed at his subterfuge as he is still an atheist. Never the less he is correct concerning Islam. In fact I found it funny that he was in essence discussing catholic social teaching concerning tolerance of Muslims and intolerance of Islam. Doubt me? Look up arch bishop fulton sheen and tolerance. God bless.
 
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