What Do Trump and Republicans Mean by “Collusion”?

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How can it be deduced that Mueller "hasn't found any evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia" given that "Mueller hasn't disclosed all that he has found"?

Because the things we noche has considered have been debunked. Because Trump is presumed innocent unless evidence is produced. Trump denies there is such evidence just as an innocent person would be expected to.

How succinctly you show that the claim that Mueller "hasn't found any evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia" has no basis in fact, is not deducible from any fact. Thank you.

 

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It is also exactly what you’d expect a guilty person to do. Both innocent and guilty people claim innocence. That is why claims of innocence cannot be used to distinguish between the two.

Imagine we are trying to distinguish whether a shape is a square or a rectangle. And I say “well, it has 4 right angles. That is evidence it is a square and not a rectangle.”

I would be wrong, because both squares and rectangles have 4 right angles. That cannot be used to distinguish between the two shapes, just like a claim of innocence cannot be used to distinguish between innocence and guilt.


That is also incorrect. Special counsel investigations usually take years, with indictments trickling in throughout. Check out the time frame of other investigations: HERE.

It is not even a year into the investigation. Compared to the time frame of others, it is not evidence of innocence that his investigation has not yet indicted Trump’s campaign for Russian collusion.

There's just no way to improve on your response here. The FiveThirtyEight graph is, in addition, quite informative. Of course, with the specter of multiple financial crimes, Mueller's investigation involves much more complex issues than the previous special counsel investigations.