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What do you call it when a sitting President tries to extend their term in office through illegitimate means?

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Is there a word for that? Do you know what that is? I will give you a hint.

It rhymes with poo.



I was just reminded that some people on this board still don't know what a coup is. Even after nearly 4 years they still have not take the few seconds it would take to educate themselves.

So make no mistake. What Donald Trump did after the 2020 election was a self-coup, and auto-coup. that is what it was. There is no ambiguity. This is the dictionary definition. Trump tried to stay in office by declaring that the legitimate democratic election of his opponent was not legitimate. That is a coup.

Maybe it is not what you imagined it was, but that is the reality of what a coup is, and it is the reality of what Trump did
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
No, that is a state of war and it is in their constitution it is not an attempt to overthrow an election.
But to prosecute the war for eternity may be interpreted as an expedient to remain president forever.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Btw a coup takes place only when the army sides with it.
When it's just the people without the army is called uprising, protest.
A coup is not what took place in 2020.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Like Zelenskyy?
No, like putin, and what Trump wanted to pull off in 2021.
But to prosecute the war for eternity may be interpreted as an expedient to remain president forever.
When putin surrenders the war will be over. Until then Ukraine is managing a crisis, and Zelensky has been very good and effective as the president. He was elected running on an anti-corruption platform.
 

McBell

Unbound
Is there a word for that? Do you know what that is? I will give you a hint.

It rhymes with poo.



I was just reminded that some people on this board still don't know what a coup is. Even after nearly 4 years they still have not take the few seconds it would take to educate themselves.

So make no mistake. What Donald Trump did after the 2020 election was a self-coup, and auto-coup. that is what it was. There is no ambiguity. This is the dictionary definition. Trump tried to stay in office by declaring that the legitimate democratic election of his opponent was not legitimate. That is a coup.

Maybe it is not what you imagined it was, but that is the reality of what a coup is, and it is the reality of what Trump did
um...
Politics?
 

McBell

Unbound
Btw a coup takes place only when the army sides with it.
Unless you can present a legitimate source for this "army only" definition of coup d'état this is nothing more than a bold empty claim.

When it's just the people without the army is called uprising, protest.
Again, source?

A coup is not what took place in 2020.
Based upon the very definition of the word, it was a failed coup...

Unless you can provide legitimate definitions that state otherwise...
 

Soandso

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Notable events described as attempted self-coups

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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Btw a coup takes place only when the army sides with it.
When it's just the people without the army is called uprising, protest.
A coup is not what took place in 2020.
Not quite. 'Coup' (in full, 'coup d'état') can refer to any illegal rapid operation, including but not limited to a violent operation, that results in a change of government. An army can obviously be useful, but it's not essential.

Had Trump succeeded in 2020, it would have been a coup, since it would have been illegal and it would have been violent.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Not quite. 'Coup' (in full, 'coup d'état') can refer to any illegal rapid operation, including but not limited to a violent operation, that results in a change of government. An army can obviously be useful, but it's not essential.

Had Trump succeeded in 2020, it would have been a coup, since it would have been illegal and it would have been violent.
The French revolution took place because the French army sided with the people.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
The French revolution took place because the French army sided with the people.

Support of the military is essential in any revolution, coup, or other kind of seizure of power.

Even prior to January 6, the military made its position clear that they would not interfere in the Constitutional processes taking place.

Besides, the Electoral College had already decided the matter, so for all intents and purposes, there was no going back. It was already a done deal.

Even if the rioters had managed to hold the Capitol and kill every member of Congress, nothing would have changed. The military still would have moved in to crush the rioters, the states would have appointed new members of Congress, and the process would have resumed without further delay.
 
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