Koldo
Outstanding Member
Are we talking about politicians demanding loyalty from the ordinary citizens now? Did the topic change?
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What do you think about the concept of a "loyalty pledge"?
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Are we talking about politicians demanding loyalty from the ordinary citizens now? Did the topic change?
In general....
**** loyalty pledges.
**** loyalty pledges.
We Never Know
No Slack
Both party's have a loyalty pledge. Bernie Sanders had to sign the democrats loyalty pledge in 2020.
The RNC walks a delicate line, post Trump indictment
The candidate complained about pledging to back a possible "convicted felon."www.politico.com
What do you think about this concept? Any Republican candidate what wants to participate in the nomination debates must sign a pledge to support whoever becomes the Republican Presidential Candidate.
Some of those Republicans running for President are doing so with the specific intent of stopping another candidate, because they think it is important that a certain person not become President. How can those people sign a pledge that says they would support them?
How can anyone in good conscience sign a pledge that says they would support someone for President even if they have been convicted of espionage against the United States? How can they be expected to take an oath that they will support someone who broke his oath to defend the constitution? One of the candidates is being asked to pledge to support a candidate who encouraged a mob to hang him.
Any one of the candidates who signs this pledge you know is someone who doesn't take their oaths seriously.
"Vermont independent Sen. Bernie Sanders has signed a loyalty pledge, promising to run and govern as a Democrat if he wins the presidency in 2020, a new requirement for candidates that largely grew out of his own 2016 campaign."
Does that make it ok? It is ok as long as both parties are doing it? Or does that just make it worse?
exchemist
Veteran Member
This seems to have been rather different. The pledge Sanders signed (back in 2020, by the way) was, as a presidential candidate, to support the aims of the Democratic party. There is nothing in it that requires him to explicitly support whoever becomes the chosen candidate.Well im glad applicable respondents feel that way along with all the colorful sanctimonious responses that apply.
So in unison with them I'll gladly exclaim...
WOW, JUST LIKE THE DEMOCRATS!!!!
Bernie Sanders signs DNC loyalty pledge: 'I am a member of the Democratic Party'
The 2020 candidate has long resisted calls to officially align himself with the Democratic Party, preferring to remain a political independent.www.nbcnews.com
Here is the document: DocumentCloud
Can you post a link to the Republican pledge proposal so we can compare them?
Bingo.
exchemist
Veteran Member
Well indeed. The whole point of the primary process is to discover more about the candidates before a choice is made. It seems very peculiar to demand you pledge to support whoever is picked, before you know what they may say or do in the course of the campaign process that might affect your opinion of them.
Good point
We Never Know
No Slack
Nope. If someone is going to gripe about one party having it, they should equally complain about the other party having it too.
We Never Know
No Slack
Ah!!! I see you beat me to it lolWell im glad applicable respondents feel that way along with all the colorful sanctimonious responses that apply.
So in unison with them I'll gladly exclaim...
WOW, JUST LIKE THE DEMOCRATS!!!!
Bernie Sanders signs DNC loyalty pledge: 'I am a member of the Democratic Party'
The 2020 candidate has long resisted calls to officially align himself with the Democratic Party, preferring to remain a political independent.
At least you got the silver medal in the official whataboutism race.
We Never Know
No Slack
Better than a participation trophy lol
I agree that anyone who participated us such a shallow knee jerk tactic should be ashamed.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Yet another of @Twilight Hue 's whataboutisms goes down in flames.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
The point of this "loyalty pledge" is to prevent any Republican who still possesses any semblance of a moral compass from holding other members accountable, as well as maintain their culture of corruption.
We Never Know
No Slack
Pretty much the same dems loyalty pledge eh?
Its all about the party..not a mention of the people in it.
"The party rules state that a candidate must "be a bona fide Democrat whose record of public service, accomplishment, public writings, and/or public statements affirmatively demonstrates that the candidate is faithful to the interests, welfare, and success of the Democratic Party of the United States who subscribes to the substance, intent, and principles of the Charter and the Bylaws of the Democratic Party of the United States, and who will participate in the Convention in good faith."
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Thise are citizens who are expected to sign those pleges to a politician.
This is America. Bite our non-shiny, non-metal asses after you've ate our shorts.
We Never Know
No Slack
To my understanding its not the ordinary people, just anyone who wants to be a candidate for either party has to sign a loyalty pledge to that party.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Nope. This was already addressed earlier in the thread.
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