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What do you think about this? (Moral question)
- Thread starter Nimos
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Koldo
Outstanding Member
1) Objective morality has zilch to do with atheism.
2) Moral relativism (or is he a non-cognitivist? not sure) is only an issue when it comes down to normative moral relativism (the idea that because people/societies have different moral standards that we ought to tolerate every single action.)
Nimos
Well-Known Member
But do you think "Charlie Kirk" whoever he is, makes a valid point when he say that "Can you see how your view can result in a lot of dead people?", Because to me, this is an obviously flawed argument.
Just wondering if others agree with that or not?
Koldo
Outstanding Member
Ah, no. I don't agree with him.
It is a cheap shot (and more than a bit suspect; were the two cameras even filming at the same time?), and one easily challenged.
Nimos
Well-Known Member
From what little I could figure out I think he is some guy going around debating people (students), so I don't think it is faked. Obviously, we don't know what the student answers to what he says as the video cuts. Which is obviously manipulative, because the argument is presented as a homerun.
The only thing the student should have asked him is, "How do you know your morality is right, and if he doesn't, couldn't his morality also lead to the death of many people?". His only argument would be that God says that killing is wrong. But that is based on the assumption that God is real and he can't demonstrate it and therefore can't demonstrate his morality to be objectively true either. Meaning whether what the nazis did was objectively wrong.
And I actually think the student tries to explain this, and even says that "he is not saying that the nazis weren't wrong", which Charlie Kirk seems to ignore. Which he obviously can't do when the issue is whether it is objectively wrong or not and he can't demonstrate it to be, he is merely claiming it is and then tries to make the student appear immoral.
McBell
Unbound
I am not thinking anything as nothing is being said. Maybe you could make it easy and put it in the OP.
Regards Tony
Regards Tony
No opinion, as it doesn't play for me.
Nimos
Well-Known Member
The video must have been removed or modified, because it weren't before
McBell
Unbound
I assume so.The video must have been removed or modified, because it weren't before
Especially given the members before me made replies about the content.
I was just letting you know it was no longer available.
