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What do you truly believe?

JerDriver

New Member
I run into people everyday who claim a faith or religion but then don’t live according to said faith or religion. It’s not that they’re intentionally being malicious I simply feel like most people don’t really know what they believe or why.

 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
Believe about what?

That's a really broad question. I'd have to write a book to tell you every last belief I had, but I don't think that's what you're looking for(and I don't have time).

Mind narrowing it down?
 

Starlight

Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
I know what I believe

God is love. Reincarnation is truth. Our soul is on this earth many times to learn lessons

BUT you are correct that some people do not live according to their belief
 

JerDriver

New Member
I’m speaking particularly about someone’s worldview. Everyone has a religion per se, even atheists.

Also, to take it one step further most people don’t know the evidence to support their beliefs. They just believe because it makes sense to them.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
I’m speaking particularly about someone’s worldview. Everyone has a religion per se, even atheists.

Also, to take it one step further most people don’t know the evidence to support their beliefs. They just believe because it makes sense to them.
But that still encompasses such a large bit... morals/values/purpose/nature of universe/place in universe/etc/etc
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I’m speaking particularly about someone’s worldview. Everyone has a religion per se, even atheists.

Also, to take it one step further most people don’t know the evidence to support their beliefs. They just believe because it makes sense to them.
Well, I would self identify as a Hindu and my beliefs and actions are mostly consistent with that I feel. What about you?
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Everyone has a religion per se, even atheists.
Nope. We belong to an entirely different category. I do not have any religion. Religions are for people content with basing their worldview on something that has the same evidence of black cats bringing bad luck.

Fully respectable, of course, but not in the same league of people applying critical thinking to claims. We just use different epistemic tools, and that is all. I am not claiming here that critical thinking is superior by default, of course. It is entirely possible that black cats do, indeed, bring bad luck. And that the same is true for equivalent beliefs.

However, at any rate, we atheists are not even close to that religious mindset. Because of those different epistemic tools we use, you see?

So, I would suggest you make your homework before setting atheists in a category they clearly do not belong to.

Ciao

- viole
 
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JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
Nope. I do not have any religion. Religions are for people content with setting their worldview on something that has the same evidence of black cats bringing bad luck.

We atheists e not even close to that mindset.

Ciao

- viole
Hmm. I've had a black cat for 13 years...

Maybe that's why my luck stinks!

Meh, I love him anyways.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
A broad and difficult question when you think about it.
I suppose I believe above all else, that the most important thing, is respect.
Respect for each other, respect for human dignity, respect for the rule of law, respect for the natural world and of course, self respect, very important.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
A 13 year old black cat? Nice! I miss my black cat, Jasmine, who passed years ago. Once my ginger kicks the bucket, I'm getting another black cat! She's 14, but showing no signs of slowing. I wouldn't be surprised if she outlived me! :rolleyes:
My Bella is 16 now, and she still thinks she's a kitten, although she is getting a bit senile, she sometimes gets food out of her bowl and places it somewhere, calling for her kittens she doesn't actually have. The batty little mare...
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Hmm. I've had a black cat for 13 years...

Maybe that's why my luck stinks!

Meh, I love him anyways.
I am not claiming that the epistemology that leads to the belief that black cats bring bad luck is inferior. Just that it is different.

Ciao

- viole
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I truly believe if a god exists, no one alive knows.
Therefore both a belief in a god and a lack of belief in a god are based on what we don't know.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
A 13 year old black cat? Nice! I miss my black cat, Jasmine, who passed years ago. Once my ginger kicks the bucket, I'm getting another black cat! She's 14, but showing no signs of slowing. I wouldn't be surprised if she outlived me! :rolleyes:
Lucky was a roommate's cat years ago... she often left him with me for stretches at a time, and I'd paid for his food and medical bills for so long that when it was time to part, I didn't even ask, I just took him with. She acknowledged it was happening, said she didn't like it, but didn't see an alternative.
 

Ebionite

Well-Known Member
Nope. We belong to an entirely different category. I do not have any religion. Religions are for people content with basing their worldview on something that has the same evidence of black cats bringing bad luck.
Belief in the absence of something is still a belief. Atheism is more irrational that your average religion because the qualities required to test for the existence of deity would typically be ascribed to deity itself.
 

Little Dragon

Well-Known Member
Atheism is more irrational that your average religion because the qualities required to test for the existence of deity would typically be ascribed to deity itself.
What is irrational is attempting to disprove a hypothesis which is A) Untestable and B) Has no evidence to disprove.

So yes in a way you are correct...
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Belief in the absence of something is still a belief. Atheism is more irrational that your average religion because the qualities required to test for the existence of deity would typically be ascribed to deity itself.
Ok, I irrationally believe in the non existence of Superman, too. Same with Mother Goose. Mickey Mouse too.

Now, let me please go to pray to all those non existent beings to protect me. LOL.

Ciao

-viole
 
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