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What does Islam say about human rights?
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muhammad_isa
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Right .. I think we are all in agreement that slavery is not promoted in Islam.
Nevertheless, I don't see the word "haram" in this context .. yet for usury, I do.
Is it "haram" to have living-in servants, that serve their whole lives to somebody? No !
There is no verse saying marriage with same sex is forbidden, for example, a woman marrying a woman. We conclude from the talk of Lut (a) with his people it is. The same is the case here.
If they do so out of their choice, no, but forcing people is forbidden. Slavery is forbidden.
muhammad_isa
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Oppressing others is forbidden .. yes!
..but those people who criticize Islam, often have sneaky financial ways of oppressing people.
..and many other ways .. such as military occupation, and threats.
Islam as is been corrupted by Ummayads and others, we have to stop following forefathers and their scholars as if they got everything right.Oppressing others is forbidden .. yes!
..but those people who criticize Islam, often have sneaky financial ways of oppressing people.
..and many other ways .. such as military occupation, and threats.
Islam as meant to be is not known by majority of Muslims, very few people who are unknown, who been trained by Imam Mahdi (a) himself, actually know the true Islamic rulings as they were originally revealed or meant to be upheld in today's time. Why they don't teach everything they know, is because the truth has to be be unveiled in layers, because too many vain scholars are mixed with the sincere, and we are in brink of destruction right now as far as oppressors goes so division is not the time.
The Mahdi - the name does not just mean guided or guide it means by which God guides, means the guidance will take place through his guidance and God guiding him how to guide others.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I stand by what I've said. Since we are both just repeating ourselves at this point, I think it is a good time for us to simply agree to disagree.Personally, I don't see it like that.
Slaves were freed back in the 7th century by those with good intent .. they paid their masters
and supported them.
..of course, people aren't so important any more .. some countries have mass unemployment,
and are "surplus to requirements"
The Quran recognizes slavery as a source of injustice, as it places the freeing of slaves on the same level as feeding the poor. Nevertheless, the Quran doesn't abolish slavery. One reason given is that slavery was a major part of the 7th century socioeconomic system, and abolishing it would not have been practical. Most interpretations of the Quran agree that the Quran envisions an ideal society as one in which slavery no longer exists.
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One the difficulties in defining human rights is that is a subset of rights that should be enforced by government. Now the question is what is the view of Quran and Islam on power dynamics. Does it even acknowledge government as defined today? This is why the outright definition of human rights doesn't exist explicitly in the Quran. We saw explicitly there is rights to be established by the government by Imam Ali (a). Now the Arabic words for government are not the same. Do they denote power and control dynamics?
We see in a du'a by Imam Hassan Al-askari (a), he complains to God "and our affair has gone from counsel (shura) to dictation" of the many things he complains transpired to the nation of Muslims.
The words used by Quran in terms of implementing God's judgment rests on all people of who the revelation is sent to. Not a particular person. Of course, the Twelve Captain (yes s is missing, just like Quran has it singular) of Bani-Israel and the Wali (again singular) who are are our only Wali per 5:55, are the true authority in their respective nations. They have authority but the implementation of their authority is entrusted to everyone to participate and help in.
Part of this is to seek knowledge from them, and per Quran asking the family of the reminder is part of relying on God (16:42-43).
This is why the Quran doesn't state these concepts explicitly. IT talks about power dynamics in terms of wealthy people a lot. In fact, they were the primary opposition to the Prophets (a) while the poor and oppressed tended to follow the Prophets (a).
This shows God's Authority in terms of light has been in the anarchists, those who don't acknowledge the power as it is, but are seeking justice.
There is in fact a lot of Quran on discourse. Without proper discourse, human rights will not be properly established in terms of justice. And there is also on who is to be trusted over things like wealth and justice, we see Quran emphasizes on moral and spiritual superiority and in knowledge and wisdom superiority. It also emphasizes on practical capability. But wealth is diminished as a factor as we see in the talk of Talut (a). By that I mean God doesn't see it as quality of leadership, but shows the ignorant masses do.
The Quran enjoins justice, but the way it talks about it, it really brings a bunch of concepts that are necessary to keep in mind, to implement a society of justice. In fact, even Hajj primary purpose per Quran is so people conduct themselves with justice. Messengers were sent for this purpose too per Quran.
Justice is part of Worshiping God and the primary means to please him is to be a part of it and play a contribution to safety, justice, peace and well being of society.
We see in a du'a by Imam Hassan Al-askari (a), he complains to God "and our affair has gone from counsel (shura) to dictation" of the many things he complains transpired to the nation of Muslims.
The words used by Quran in terms of implementing God's judgment rests on all people of who the revelation is sent to. Not a particular person. Of course, the Twelve Captain (yes s is missing, just like Quran has it singular) of Bani-Israel and the Wali (again singular) who are are our only Wali per 5:55, are the true authority in their respective nations. They have authority but the implementation of their authority is entrusted to everyone to participate and help in.
Part of this is to seek knowledge from them, and per Quran asking the family of the reminder is part of relying on God (16:42-43).
This is why the Quran doesn't state these concepts explicitly. IT talks about power dynamics in terms of wealthy people a lot. In fact, they were the primary opposition to the Prophets (a) while the poor and oppressed tended to follow the Prophets (a).
This shows God's Authority in terms of light has been in the anarchists, those who don't acknowledge the power as it is, but are seeking justice.
There is in fact a lot of Quran on discourse. Without proper discourse, human rights will not be properly established in terms of justice. And there is also on who is to be trusted over things like wealth and justice, we see Quran emphasizes on moral and spiritual superiority and in knowledge and wisdom superiority. It also emphasizes on practical capability. But wealth is diminished as a factor as we see in the talk of Talut (a). By that I mean God doesn't see it as quality of leadership, but shows the ignorant masses do.
The Quran enjoins justice, but the way it talks about it, it really brings a bunch of concepts that are necessary to keep in mind, to implement a society of justice. In fact, even Hajj primary purpose per Quran is so people conduct themselves with justice. Messengers were sent for this purpose too per Quran.
Justice is part of Worshiping God and the primary means to please him is to be a part of it and play a contribution to safety, justice, peace and well being of society.
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