What evidence out there crushes religious faith?

[ChristineM]

No. Optimistic, but in no way incorrect at all.

I think I see where you are going with this....

Yes, when 14k was all we had we trusted it implicitly to communicate, there was no faith involved in whether your email would reach its destination. No faith needed to see the website you wanted to view downloaded, if if it was busy and speed dropped to 2 or 3 bps. It would happen.

Then came 28k. The cutting edge... Then 56k... Then dual 56k... Then 256k dsl etc, none were wrong, but each was an improvement.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Yes, when 14k was all we had we trusted it implicitly to communicate, there was no faith involved in whether your email would reach its destination. No faith needed to see the website you wanted to view downloaded, if if it was busy and speed dropped to 2 or 3 bps. It would happen.

Then came 28k. The cutting edge... Then 56k... Then dual 56k... Then 256k dsl etc, none were wrong, but each was an improvement.

I need to just state I shouldn't be cautious of science but some metaphysics theories stemming from it.

 

[Aupmanyav]

But let us not complicate this further.

Why? Will discussing it any further expose its untruth?

Atheism is murder. If faith in life is hope, then dis-believing in God is like saying you want to murder God.

No God, therefore, no murder. Just eradication of a false belief.

I think the evidence is the life lived by those like Jesus and the Bab, ..

Jesus was cursing the cities and Babis persecuted their opponents.

 

[Heyo]

Why is that a problem?

It can become a problem because you can't reason with the faithful. They give you no other course but to use force. (Which they welcome because they like to be persecuted.)
Take those faithful who believe they can't get Covid19. They will not only endanger themselves but their whole community. You can't convince them to quarantine, you have to force them.

 

[ChristineM]

I need to just state I shouldn't be cautious of science but some metaphysics theories stemming from it.

Metaphysics comes from philosophy, not science

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Metaphysics comes from philosophy, not science

It's philosophy seeming to come from scientific studies, or being based on them, and appearing, yes.

 

[ChristineM]

It's philosophy seeming to come from scientific studies, or being based on them, and appearing, yes.

???

We seem to have surprisingly different views of the two subjects, science is empirical wheres metaphysics is as non empirical as a non empirical thing can be.

Just because it has physics in the name does not make science based

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

???

We seem to have surprisingly different views of the two subjects, science is empirical wheres metaphysics is as non empirical as a non empirical thing can be.

Just because it has physics in the name does not make science based

We're on two different wavelengths right now. But I know, metaphysics is philosophy. I'm not using it to make a case science is biased.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Rather, I was saying some of the biases stemming from scientific studies may be caused by metaphysics, which is philosophy, and not from the studies themselves.

 

[ChristineM]

We're on two different wavelengths right now. But I know, metaphysics is philosophy. I'm not using it to make a case science is biased.

You said

It's philosophy seeming to come from scientific studies, or being based on them, and appearing, yes.

Which is what i am basing my argument pn