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What has islam contributed to the world?

Islam, as we can judge through its behavior, turns out to be a well-executed plan for Arab Imperialism. As a political ideology, it appealed to the idea of a creator god which commanded unity and commanded war, thus giving them the power to create the illusion that they were a civilization comparable to their neighbors: The Egyptians, the Persians, the Greeks, and the Romans. Using the false promises of this new movement, they attacked their neighbors to try to convert them. Those who resisted conversion were either converted by the power of the sword, or brutally murdered. But, after they conquered a neighbor, they would not seek to bring their civilization up to the level of those they had barbarically vanquished. On the contrary, they destroyed all the manifestations of culture in those societies: they burned down libraries of valuable books and forbade the practice of music, painting, sculpture, and even literature. The only literature needed under their system was the Koran. And this did the most fundamental damage to the language of the vanquished, essentially making it disappear gradually and become replaced with Arabic. In those societies where there was a strong resistance to the Arabicization of their language, Arabicization worked only partially. Such was the case in Persia, where the great poet Ferdowsi wrote the Epic of Kings (Shah-Nameh) for the explicit purpose of saving the language from Arabic slaughter. To this day, Persian is only about 50% Arabic.

Hence, for the past thirteen centuries, the Arabic "culture" has been spread throughout the world through Islam. But the significant point is that Islam did not bring in any major revolution in thinking. Its pronouncement of unity was essentially a plagiarism of Abraham's ground-breaking pronouncement of monotheism a few millennia earlier. Its specific rituals were borrowed mostly from Judaism (such as avoidance of pork). And the behavior of its leaders was shameful at its best. A case in point: The Prophet Mohammad wanting to marry a six-year-old girl, Aisha, but having to wait three years due to her parents' resistance, thus marrying her at age nine, and then making this the minimum-marriage-age law in Islam. In fact, the whole Koran is nothing but the personal thoughts and desires of Mohammad pretending to have Divine Laws revealed to him. Had he been Irish or Russian he would have probably made it a requirement to drink!

Islam did not bring forth ANY new thought, concept, or idea. After it conquered its neighboring civilizations, it started owning their intellectual properties. Hence, for example, Omar Khayyam, is often mentioned in the West as an Islamic mathematician. What was Islamic about his mathematics?! How did Islam contribute to his intellectual development?

This is the truth the majority of the world has never heard, but needs to hear now. Enough is enough. It is not a coincidence that modern Islamic terrorism is a direct outgrowth of the same line of thinking as that which started 14 centuries ago under the guise of a new religion. The majority of Muslims in the world are decent, peace-loving people. This is so because they are "cultural Muslims" (they happened to be born into that religion), rather than "religious Muslims" (they studied it objectively to decide if they want to adopt its tenets and practices). It is not a coincidence that the majority of the Muslims in the world are descendents of the conquered/vanquished, as explained above.
 
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The "Islamic" golden age would have not been possible had it not been for NON-ISLAMIC MINORITES living under Islamic rule.

For example the Muslims claim Avicenna as an "Islamic scientist" but he didn't study Islam and there's nothing scientific about religion in the first place; religions are built on faith while science is built on inquiry. And, Avicenna was neither Arab nor Islamic. He was a Persian Jew.
 

GabrielWithoutWings

Well-Known Member
The "Islamic" golden age would have not been possible had it not been for NON-ISLAMIC MINORITES living under Islamic rule.

For example the Muslims claim Avicenna as an "Islamic scientist" but he didn't study Islam and there's nothing scientific about religion in the first place; religions are built on faith while science is built on inquiry. And, Avicenna was neither Arab nor Islamic. He was a Persian Jew.

Right. I'm sure that every single Muslim was a barbarian while the poor dhimmis flourished at the same time. I'm sure it was the dhimmis that built Baghdad as well.

If there's nothing scientific about religion to you, then why are you asking what Islam has contributed to the world? Or are you implying that all of those advancements made were the work of purely secular types?
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Well islam did revive Aristotilean philosophy through Averroes. It brought us Algebra, Alchemy, variations of medicine etc. Besides Arab Muslims weren't the only ones to contribute. Many black muslims were highlighted as heroes in Islam such as Tariq inn Ziad, Kurdish Muslim such as Saladin. Jerks, grandson of Ghengis Khan was the first mongol to establish islam in mongol state.
 

dmgdnooc

Active Member
What has Islam contributed to the world?
How about the destruction of an evil empire whose very existence (and aberrant accounting practices) caused the West to bravely expand its military to an unprecedented destructive capacity?
 
For over 40 years the West fought a relentless war against the evil Soviet Empire.
And lost just about every battle.
 
Then an upstart, ragtag group of Islamic freedom fighters cried 'Enough' and broke the back of that wicked communistic behemoth.
The nations looked on dumbfounded by the victory and, perceiving weakness, broke away from the falling monolithic enemy of freedom.
 
What a slap in the face to Western supremacy, a handful of determined Muslims had done in a few years what the totality of Western might could not do in 40 years of conflict.
No wonder the West's military, political, administrative and security agencies, are so pi**ed off with Islam, no wonder Islam has replaced Russia as the great enemy that justifies the West's rampant militarism, and no wonder that Russia has become the ally of the West in the fight to secure our mutual freedom.
 
Taqiyya, you seem to me to be another victim of the media's puppet relations campaign to raise up a foe worthy of a continued military expansionism.
 
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Or are you implying that all of those advancements made were the work of purely secular types?

You can't have science unless you give up some faith.

For example the New Testament says the World HAS CORNERS which implies that the people who wrote the Bible thought the earth was flag, even though it was known at the time that it wasn't

Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV)

Also the Koran says that the Earth is SPREAD OUT, implying also that THEY THOUGHT that the Earth is Flat: "And the mountains how they are fixed firm.
And the earth how it is spread out?" (Sura 88:17-20)

So you can either believe the Bible or the Koran or you can believe in Science which says that the earth is round.

It brought us Algebra, Alchemy, variations of medicine etc.
Algebra was already known to the Hindus, and Alchemy was known to the ancient egyptians. In fact Alchemy doesn't come from the Arabic like the Islamic propagandists claim, it comes from KEMET, the name of the African Kingdom of Egypt.
 

croak

Trickster
Also the Koran says that the Earth is SPREAD OUT, implying also that THEY THOUGHT that the Earth is Flat: "And the mountains how they are fixed firm.
And the earth how it is spread out?" (Sura 88:17-20)
Uh... right....

Algebra was already known to the Hindus, and Alchemy was known to the ancient egyptians.
I agree, algebra and alchemy were known to those respective peoples. Nobody is saying they aren't. Are you trying to imply that Muslims didn't advance that knowledge at all?

In fact Alchemy doesn't come from the Arabic like the Islamic propagandists claim, it comes from KEMET, the name of the African Kingdom of Egypt.
Wikipedia said:
Alchemy refers to a quest for a fabled elixir or kimia (Old Persian for "elixir", later arabicized as alchemy) capable of turning copper and other base metals to gold and also a quest for something to prevent human beings' bodies from becoming old.
Alchemy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Where did you get the idea it came from the name for Egypt?
 

Marble

Rolling Marble
Well islam did revive Aristotilean philosophy through Averroes. It brought us Algebra, Alchemy, variations of medicine etc.
Wasn't most of that knowledge from the Indians?
The 0 at least has been invented by Indian mathematicans.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Wasn't most of that knowledge from the Indians?
The 0 at least has been invented by Indian mathematicans.

Yes an Indian mathematician (whose name I forgot) was the first in his time. But many ancient cultures had a zero in the numeric table. What I was telling Taqqiya here was that Islamic culture had a huge influence in the middle age.
 

nameless

The Creator
It brought us Algebra

While the word algebra comes from the Arabic language (al-jabr, الجبر literally, restoration) and much of its methods from Arabic/Islamic mathematics, its roots can be traced to earlier traditions, most notably ancient Indian mathematics, which had a direct influence on Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī (c. 780–850). He learned Indian mathematics and introduced it to the Muslim world through his famous arithmetic text, Book on Addition and Subtraction after the Method of the Indians.[3][4] He later wrote The Compendious Book on Calculation by Completion and Balancing, which established algebra as a mathematical discipline that is independent of geometry and arithmetic.[5]
The roots of algebra can be traced to the ancient Babylonians,[6] who developed an advanced arithmetical system with which they were able to do calculations in an algorithmic fashion. The Babylonians developed formulas to calculate solutions for problems typically solved today by using linear equations, quadratic equations, and indeterminate linear equations. By contrast, most Egyptians of this era, as well as Greek and Chinese mathematicians in the 1st millennium BC, usually solved such equations by geometric methods, such as those described in the Rhind Mathematical Papyrus, Euclid's Elements, and The Nine Chapters on the Mathematical Art. The geometric work of the Greeks, typified in the Elements, provided the framework for generalizing formulae beyond the solution of particular problems into more general systems of stating and solving equations, though this would not be realized until the medieval Muslim mathematicians.

Algebra History - Wikipedia.org
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It is hard to tell how things would have gone without Islam. For one thing, what would "fill the void"? How much of the societies and their achievements happened due to Islam, despite it or independently of it?

Still, I would guess that Islam was a definite factor in the growth of the idea of Monotheism and of the Monotheistic Abrahamic religions. It was also IMO a major force beyond the survival of the idea of Religious Scholarships, Laws, Governments and "Sciences". And, of course, it is at least partially responsible for the idea of religious proselytism.

The scenario us highly speculative, but I believe that without Islam we would have a far greater preponderance of Hinduism, and far less difusion of Christianism and Judaism. Literalism would be less prevalent, perhaps dramatically so; Monotheism would be far less of an issue, and national politics would be somewhat less valued as well. National identities would perhaps be recognized as the weirdness that they have always been.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Its not easy to discern what contributions Islam gave to the Medaeval world,theres no reason to believe Algebra etc were because of Islam .
Islam like Christianity has greatly contributed to Human misery,oppression,ignorance,war poor attitudes to Women and has been like an Anchor dragging us backwards,just my opinion though.
 
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