Remté
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Obviously not.
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What if faith is mere brain chemistry?
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Amazing, you can see his error but not yours.
Looncall
Well-Known Member
Of course, we are all the same species. Just a deepity.
I believe every reaction is because of some action. That is why, if there is chemical reaction in the brain, something has caused it. Therefore, if someone claims faithfulness to God is because of chemical reaction in the brain, I would like to hear, what caused that reaction. If person can’t answer to that, then the whole claim is meaningless. Do you believe things happen without reason?
sealchan
Well-Known Member
If faith is a cognition then it has its basis in the same context as all cognition.
Saying cognition (or a subcategory faith) is merely "brain chemistry" is an oversimplification that masks some vitally important context.
Audie called out that context with the example of the music on the hard drive...faith is a subset of cognition is a subset of brain chemistry. Actually you must add neural structure to the brain chemistry because the shape of the neuron, quite apart from the chemistry going on in and around it, is vitally important. Then the way in which the neurons connect together is also vitally important. The types of sensory organs, the social behaviors of the species with the brain including language and technological capability is also relevant. I heard of one species on a planet not so far away that invented something with their brains and then proceeded to try and understand their brains as like that invention. They called it a computer.
Saying cognition (or a subcategory faith) is merely "brain chemistry" is an oversimplification that masks some vitally important context.
Audie called out that context with the example of the music on the hard drive...faith is a subset of cognition is a subset of brain chemistry. Actually you must add neural structure to the brain chemistry because the shape of the neuron, quite apart from the chemistry going on in and around it, is vitally important. Then the way in which the neurons connect together is also vitally important. The types of sensory organs, the social behaviors of the species with the brain including language and technological capability is also relevant. I heard of one species on a planet not so far away that invented something with their brains and then proceeded to try and understand their brains as like that invention. They called it a computer.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Nope: You made a claim "there is only one god". Based on? What, exactly?
Looking around the Universe? There is **never** just the One Thing-- there are **always** multiples of whatever it is we discover.
The Ultimately Complicated Thing: would be a god. The odds of just the ONE? That's literally unbelievable.
Far more than even existing in the first place.
IF and it's a giant leap here-- IF there is A god? Then? There are likely an INFINITE NUMBER of them.
The odds of just the one is kind of egotistical on the part of those making that claim.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Nope: to claim "there is only one god" is utterly without reason of any kind.
It's 100%, pure-D egotism. And faith, of course.
You do remember faith? Belief in things for which there is no evidence? The opposite of reason.
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Or? Some day? Bottle it up and sell it.
Imagine a religion 100% based on the selling of Faith Pills.... Infinite, Perfect Faith in a convenient little pill.
No need for that constant brainwashing and/or repetition. For a convenient low-low price of <to be determined-- all the traffic will bear, though> you can get All Your Faith, Instantly, No Regrets*.
Imagine that?
* obviously, no regrets. Such perfect faith would not leave room for silly things like regret. Or self determination. Or doubt. Or free will.... or, really, thoughts of any sort... those are all antithetical to faith.
Remté
Active Member
That doesn't make any sense. Why would one must equal infinite?
Remté
Active Member
You forgot reason.
aMirage
Look outside, seek and observe.
Yes everything (not specifically faith), case closed.
the gut brain, enteric nervous system is part of the autonomic system, effects the thinking brain. are humans what they eat?
7. Jesus said, "Lucky is the lion that the human will eat, so that the lion becomes human. And foul is the human that the lion will eat, and the lion still will become human."
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
A single thing? Is not likely-- I explained that already. The Universe seems made of of LOTS and LOTS of things-- never just one thing.
Since gods, by definition, are incredibly, unbelievably complicated? The odds of even one are likely infinity to one against.
But. If there were one in spite of those odds? Looking at the example of the Universe? If there is one, there are an infinity of them. Just like the universe itself.
Bob the Unbeliever
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Remté
Active Member
"The basis or motive for an action, decision, or conviction. See Usage Notes at because, why. n. A declaration made to explain or justify action, decision, or conviction: inquired about her reason for leaving. n. An underlying fact or cause that provides logical sense for a premise or occurrence: " source: wordnik
Remté
Active Member
Then you probably believe in other life in space. If there's just one globe mostly of water with people drinking beer - what are the odds, right? There's probably lots and lots of such planets, do I understand you correct?
QuestioningMind
Well-Known Member
Faith itself cannot be called brain chemistry
Why not? There isn't anything that you think or feel that ISN'T a product of brain chemistry.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Bob the Unbeliever
Well-Known Member
Exactly! Your definition agrees with my comment.