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What if the End Times are not Averted?

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
I am not thinking that Jesus is going to part the clouds and land on the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem or anything but if i am honest about the condition of things in the world right now i would say that we are experiencing some unprecedented times.
That perspective is an illusion of your present circumstance.

If 24-hour news stations were available 1,000 years ago, do you really think that the overwhelming sense of dread would be any different for those people than it seems to be for you?

Can you imagine the horror of seeing a Solar eclipse when no one in your village had any real explanation for what it was? Your sunlight suddenly turns to complete darkness, midday, and you have no concept of planets or stars or anything like that... Wouldn't you drop to your knees and cling to your beliefs, hoping that the horror the moment might not befall you and your loved ones?

You have to look at things objectively - not emtotionally. Bad **** happens all the time, everywhere. You're just more aware of it because of the time in which you exist.

I am of the perspective that we are experiencing the end of a cycle and the beginning of another.
That's called a "day". It concluded and beings anew with each rotation of our planet.

It is the only thing i do not have to forsake my faculty of reason to accept.
Actually, you've fooled yourself into thinking that an emotional response is equivalent to reason. It's not.

Are all of the people that are preaching and preparing for the end of the world crazy?
Yes, they are.

Is there good reason to be concerned?
No - there isn't.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Would they meet the formal diagnosis for a mental disorder like schizophrenia or bipolar affective disorder? Most wouldn't, some would.

I believe the ones who are missing the mark and sounding crazy, are those providing literal interpretations from their religions. An obvious example are some Christians when they refer to events in the book of revelation and apocalyptic scripture as being literally true. That's where Christ returning on the clouds comes from.



Yes, but the world is not going to end literally.


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viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
The only way to survive is to bring our lives into harmony with God's requirements and follow Christ's teachings to the letter.

Do you think it could help if we start to talk to fig trees?

Ciao

- viole
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I am not thinking that Jesus is going to part the clouds and land on the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem or anything but if i am honest about the condition of things in the world right now i would say that we are experiencing some unprecedented times.

I agree. It is probably the first time Europeans do not have too much to fear about their kids being called to go to some wars.

I am of the perspective that we are experiencing the end of a cycle and the beginning of another.

Even if true, there have been many cycles. So what?

So hear is the question?
Are all of the people that are preaching and preparing for the end of the world crazy?

Yes. For even if the world ends, how does preparing for it can help? They must assume that the world does not end, just parts of it.

Is there good reason to be concerned?

Nope.

For if the world ends, it will end with your concerns on top of it. Which is suboptimal for what concerns the net result.

Ciao

- viole
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
What if the End Times are not Averted?
The only 'end times' that anyone should be concerned with is their own 'end times'. Jesus will come again just like He said He would. He will arrive on the clouds with His Angels for all eyes to see. BUT, every person that dies before He returns, is having their 'end times'! When you die, it is over, you do not have a chance to decide to follow Jesus after that. You go to the grave with the beliefs that you have at you 'end times' of your life. So before you suddenly die of a heart attack you still have a chance to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and will meet Him in the clouds when He returns.

ronandcarol

Well, that allows us to rule out the days when He returns. If there are no clouds, then there will be no Jesus. So, watch the weather report before getting ready.

By the way, how does it work? Will you levitate to the clouds to meet Jesus personally? What if you are naked under the shower when that happens? Will you have the time to look presentable? I mean, this is exactly the sort of annoying things that happen while you are having a shower.

Will that work with all people on earth deserving that meeting?

What about someone at the antipodes of the meeting place? Will they fly half of the world to meet Jesus? After they have some clothes on, of course.

:)

Ciao

- viole
 
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Valerian

Member
Well, that allows us to rule out the days when He returns. If there are no clouds, then there will be no Jesus. So, watch the weather report before getting ready.

By the way, how does it work? Will you levitate to the clouds to meet Jesus personally? What if you are naked under the shower when that happens? Will you have the time to look presentable? I mean, this is exactly the sort of annoying things that happen while you are having a shower.

Will that work with all people on earth deserving that meeting?

What about someone at the antipodes of the meeting place? Will they fly half of the world to meet Jesus? After they have some clothes on, of course.

:)

Ciao

- viole
You worry too much about the peripherals.

Just get a chest x-ray to measure how dark one's soul is. Let a Catholic priest read the chart.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
Every generation since the inception of the Bible and the Koran has believed they were in the end times. It's been over 2000 years and the end times still haven't happened because none of it is literal and if it were meant to be literal than it's sadly incorrect.

How can you be sure that the biblical promise of the return of Christ is incorrect? Yes, it has been over 2000 years, but does that mean it won't happen when it is supposed to happen according to God's time frame? What if there is a reason it hasn't occurred yet?

...knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is patient toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. 2 Peter 3:3-9
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Jesus great prophecy about the end of this system includes this feature: "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14) The change to occur, IMO, is the government by God, his Kingdom with Jesus Christ as King, will end all human rulership. I believe this is good news, since it will bring an end to governments who have brought ruin to mankind. The earth will be restored to the condition God purposed in the beginning. (Revelation 21:3,4) I think any person who examines the evidence for this is very sound in mind.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
I am not thinking that Jesus is going to part the clouds and land on the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem or anything but if i am honest about the condition of things in the world right now i would say that we are experiencing some unprecedented times.
I am of the perspective that we are experiencing the end of a cycle and the beginning of another.
It is the only thing i do not have to forsake my faculty of reason to accept.

So hear is the question?
Are all of the people that are preaching and preparing for the end of the world crazy?
Is there good reason to be concerned?

The worst that could happen is that 144,000 religious fanatics get zapped into a nowhereland.
 

jtartar

Well-Known Member
I am not thinking that Jesus is going to part the clouds and land on the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem or anything but if i am honest about the condition of things in the world right now i would say that we are experiencing some unprecedented times.
I am of the perspective that we are experiencing the end of a cycle and the beginning of another.
It is the only thing i do not have to forsake my faculty of reason to accept.

So hear is the question?
Are all of the people that are preaching and preparing for the end of the world crazy?
Is there good reason to be concerned?


allfoak,
We are living at the most critical time of any time since Adam and Eve were created.
We are definitely living, not just in the Last Days, but in the very Last Days of the Last Days!!! Consider what Jesus said about the time just before he will return. Very much evidence Jesus gave at Matthew 24 chapter, Mark 13 chapter and Luke 21 chapter. In this prophecy Jesus mentioned many things that we see today, but that is not the proof, the real proof is; not only are all the things Jesus mentioned happening, but they are all happening on an unprecedented scale, so that there can be no doubt as to the generation Jesus was talking about. Also In 2Timothy 3:17,we have conditions easily seen today. 2 Peter also at 3:3-7. These signs make up a composite sign including 39 signs, that make it impossible to mistake the Last Days. Our problem is to find the OnE true religion the Bible tells us about, Ephesians 4:3-6. We don't have much time!!! Agape!!!
I am not thinking that Jesus is going to part the clouds and land on the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem or anything but if i am honest about the condition of things in the world right now i would say that we are experiencing some unprecedented times.
I am of the perspective that we are experiencing the end of a cycle and the beginning of another.
It is the only thing i do not have to forsake my faculty of reason to accept.

So hear is the question?
Are all of the people that are preaching and preparing for the end of the world crazy?
Is there good reason to be concerned?


I am not thinking that Jesus is going to part the clouds and land on the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem or anything but if i am honest about the condition of things in the world right now i would say that we are experiencing some unprecedented times.
I am of the perspective that we are experiencing the end of a cycle and the beginning of another.
It is the only thing i do not have to forsake my faculty of reason to accept.

So hear is the question?
Are all of the people that are preaching and preparing for the end of the world crazy?
Is there good reason to be concerned?

I am not thinking that Jesus is going to part the clouds and land on the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem or anything but if i am honest about the condition of things in the world right now i would say that we are experiencing some unprecedented times.
I am of the perspective that we are experiencing the end of a cycle and the beginning of another.
It is the only thing i do not have to forsake my faculty of reason to accept.

So hear is the question?
Are all of the people that are preaching and preparing for the end of the world crazy?
Is there good reason to be concerned?

 

jtartar

Well-Known Member
The worst that could happen is that 144,000 religious fanatics get zapped into a nowhereland.

Willamena,
The group that God is blessing today is very different that what you may be looking for 1Corinthians 1:20-30, Matthew 24:9, John 15:18-21, Luke 6:22,23, 26.
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
So there's going to be a very spectacular earthquake and the world will implode?


purportedly this is what caused the destruction of sodom and gomorrah.


SODOM - JewishEncyclopedia.com

This event appears to have occurred in the twenty-second century B.C. According to the hypothesis of Blankenburg ("Entstehung und Gesch. des Todten, Meeres," Leipsic, 1896), the catastrophe was in the nature of a sudden sinkage of the valley of the Dead Sea, producing chasms which engulfed the cities. Whenever it happened, the disaster must have been terrible; and it produced such an impression that the Prophets often refer to Pentapolis or to Sodom in describing dire misfortunes (Isa. i. 9, xiii. 19; Jer. xxiii. 14, xlix. 18; Amos iv. 11; Zeph. ii. 9). The destruction of these cities is described in similar terms by Josephus ("B. J." iv. 8, § 4) and in the Koran (sura liv.)

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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Haven't Christians been predicting the Last Days for two thousand years, with clear signs and Biblical references?
 
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