And after i die i am dead
So you've done this before?
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And after i die i am dead
Then he's given a sufficient answer to the question, no? He's said he could be wrong. He strongly implied he didn't think he was (which makes him like just about everyone else on that point) but he allowed it was possible.yeah and what then?
You're assuming the existence of Y. Having made reasonably thorough enquiries, I can't even find a definition of Y appropriate to a real being, one with objective existence.At univerisity (I think God I had the opportunity to be there) I occasionally was invited by X to Y's party. Many other people were.
But still, if I broke a glass I would go to Y and not to X.
And if the party was great I would go to Y, too, for the sake of praising it. Not to X. Maybe I would thank both of them.
Interestingly this is hard for people to accept but for those that understand it is the only way for life to progress and allow others to live. It took me a long time to finally understand this but occurred when I felt an intimate connection with then natural world recognizing that life dies so that life lives.
So you've done this before?
Yes, like you and everyone else, i am comprised of dead people and dead things
no, he did not say what happens then, in his opinion.Then he's given a sufficient answer to the question, no?
I can't decide whether to make a Frankenstein joke or a Sixth Sense joke, so I'll forego the funny.
So if I am comprise solely of dead people and dead things, how is it that I'm alive?
The first law of thermodynamics tells you what you are made of. How that matter/energy reacts when brought together gives you life
So a closed saucepan on the lit stove is alive?
Did i say that? Or anything like that?
No, but you didn't really answer my question, either. The first law of thermodynamics states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The body is a closed system of energy, as is a close saucepan.
I asked you how I'm alive, and you threw a thermodynamic law at me to tell me how matter has energy. In essence, you told me that having energy means one is alive. I gave you an example of something that has energy that isn't.
How that matter/energy reacts when brought together gives you life
no, he did not say what happens then, in his opinion.
As @viole says he did address Pascal's wager.
But still he didn't answer what if he was wrong. Even if this question is the same for anyone and the Christian inquirer didn't have any positional advantage, as Viole puts it, he still didn't answer it.
To give an example:
- What happens if you can't go shopping tonight, Richard?
- well what happens if you don't go shopping tomorrow? and well, what happens if Peter doesn't go swimming this week?
It sounds genious. At the same time, it just doesn't answer it.
He could have said:
- if I don't go shopping tonight, I don't make me a potatoe soup. Because I don't have the potatoes.
100 points. That would have answered the question indeed.
@viole, there is evidence, I think.
What do you think of this one:
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It's entirely beautiful, from the region, I live in.
For me this points to a loving creator God.
It's even more "open system" than that.No the body is not a closed system, example, skin sheds constantly, nutrients are absorbed and skin is made. Cells are constantly dying and new cells replace them. Your body is essentially replaced every 7 years (give or take)
There are few things less closed than a saucepan.No, but you didn't really answer my question, either. The first law of thermodynamics states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The body is a closed system of energy, as is a close saucepan.
I asked you how I'm alive, and you threw a thermodynamic law at me to tell me how matter has energy. In essence, you told me that having energy means one is alive. I gave you an example of something that has energy that isn't.
It's even more "open system" than that.
Just look all the things going in & out second
by second & day by day...breathing & eating.
(I'll spare you further comings & goings.)
So there's no thermodynamic problem at all.
And all along I thought you were a girlie.On a similar note, after hubby returned to his exercise routine following his radiotherapy and all those cancer cells were killed he said "i feel like a new man"
My quick reply was "so do i".
I'll spare you further comings & goings
Seldom do we
encounter them in nature
And all along I thought you were a girlie.
I don't see any succinct answer to the question ─ it's far too general. There are so many ways in which an atheist could be wrong ─ one for each god, for a start.no, he did not say what happens then, in his opinion.
As @viole says he did address Pascal's wager.
But still he didn't answer what if he was wrong. Even if this question is the same for anyone and the Christian inquirer didn't have any positional advantage, as Viole puts it, he still didn't answer it.
Fixed.Itotoo was being polite and ladylike;-)
Big "maybe" there.Except maybe the universe