Frank Goad
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What is better?A movie with a ghost as the bad guy?Or a demon as the bad guy?For me it a ghost.
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What is better?A movie with a ghost as the bad guy?Or a demon as the bad guy?
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There have been some pretty scary movies with either.
Movies like The Grudge and The Ring with ghosts.
The whole Hellraiser series and the Evil Dead movies with demons.
I've also seen a few Turkish movies based on the idea of demon possession that were really scary. Can't remember the names though.
I don't think one antagonist is better than the other. Like anything else it depends on how well the movie is done.
Movies like The Grudge and The Ring with ghosts.
The whole Hellraiser series and the Evil Dead movies with demons.
I've also seen a few Turkish movies based on the idea of demon possession that were really scary. Can't remember the names though.
I don't think one antagonist is better than the other. Like anything else it depends on how well the movie is done.
InChrist
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What’s the difference?What is better?A movie with a ghost as the bad guy?Or a demon as the bad guy?For me it a ghost.
Erebus
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I honestly like both but I probably veer towards liking ghost stories more than demon stories. Demon stories frequently centre on a Christian (typically Catholic) interpretation of what demons are and can easily end up becoming pretty samey. I'd like see more films explore the concept from other perspectives.
Ghost stories also repeat common tropes but I often find they have a little more to them. Sure, there's a 99% probability the ghost is angry about being murdered but that at least opens up a mystery. Who was responsible? Will they be brought to justice? Good ghost stories often have an element of detective fiction to them.
Meanwhile, the Christian archetype of a demon hurts people because that's just what demons do.
Demons to some... angels to others.
Ghost stories also repeat common tropes but I often find they have a little more to them. Sure, there's a 99% probability the ghost is angry about being murdered but that at least opens up a mystery. Who was responsible? Will they be brought to justice? Good ghost stories often have an element of detective fiction to them.
Meanwhile, the Christian archetype of a demon hurts people because that's just what demons do.
Demons to some... angels to others.
Siccin or D@bbe? (Each is a movie series. I found two in the former and one in the latter to be pretty creepy, especially because the themes are relatable given that they're Islamic.)
I'm not sure. 'Siccin' sounds familiar though.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Human souls/spirits turn into demons? Cool.
Erebus
Well-Known Member
Some religions posit that all ghosts are actually demons. Others argue that ghosts are human spirits while demons are inhuman spirits.
Horror fiction usually favours the latter interpretation, though it's certainly possible for the lines to get a bit blurry. For example, Cenobites in the Hellraiser franchise used to be human but have become something much more alien. Things Heard & Seen loosely plays with Swedenborg's idea that angels and demons are the spirits of humans who sometimes try to guide or corrupt the living.
Ghosts are supposed to be the spirits of departed humans.
Generally speaking, demons are otherworldly or supernatural creatures that have always been what they are. There are some exceptions here and there were demons are portrayed as having once been human.
For me, the idea of demons is scarier than that of ghosts because demons are always portrayed as malevolent, where as ghosts may or may not be.
Well, maybe not always:
Great show btw.
Originally "Demon" was a divine spirit, guiding spirit or one's conscious essence. The association with evil or with an individual entity came about much later. This is why I ask for definitions. Words go through multiple iterations. Even today, Dæmon can mean different things to a poet, a philosopher or a Baptist.
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InChrist
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Thanks, I appreciate your thoughts and perspective. I understand that is the common view concerning demons and ghosts and the way they are portrayed in movies and books. Yet, from a biblical perspective, there is no difference; all such entities are demonic spiritual beings, who often may appear as departed humans as a deception.
Sgt. Pepper
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What is better?A movie with a ghost as the bad guy?Or a demon as the bad guy?For me it a ghost.
Either one, in my opinion.