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What is Deja Vu?

factseeker88

factseeker88
My take is deja vu is what happens when go to a place for the first time all alone, a bar, a dance, a movie, a museum, library. etc. Suddenly you feel uneasy, afraid and lost. The mini-shock stops time and when you recover an instant later you have the feeling you were there before. Of course you were, a split second ago.

“What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.” John Ruskin (1819 - 1900)
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
It's a brain fart. It's actually quite hilarious to watch someone experience it. "And that happened! And that happened! And you were there, and you were there..." All in hindsight.
 

atanu

Member
Premium Member
It's a brain fart. It's actually quite hilarious to watch someone experience it. "And that happened! And that happened! And you were there, and you were there..." All in hindsight.

Fart has a reason. What may be the reason for brain fart?
 

factseeker88

factseeker88
Dude! Deja Vu! And you said "all in hindsight".

True, but it was the infinitesimal time lapse, stimulated by fear, that caused the mini - stroke.

“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.” John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
I don't know what it is, but I'm convinced that it most likely has something to do with time travel, parallel universes, interdimensional beings, and flaws in the intrinsic structure of space-time itself.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
My take is deja vu is what happens when go to a place for the first time all alone, a bar, a dance, a movie, a museum, library. etc. Suddenly you feel uneasy, afraid and lost. The mini-shock stops time and when you recover an instant later you have the feeling you were there before.
That is my understanding of what deja vu is, too, though rather than shock I more often feel nostalgic. I believe the explanation lies in how our mind puts the world together. The images that lie in memory are not fixed, they can shuffle, fade, change and merge. When we remember, those images get re-imaged (recollected, recognized). When we experience that moment of recognition while knowing it's a first occurance, a memory has closely matched our current experience (sufficiently) and a feeling of something familiar is inevitable.
 

atanu

Member
Premium Member
That is my understanding of what deja vu is, too, though rather than shock I more often feel nostalgic. I believe the explanation lies in how our mind puts the world together. The images that lie in memory are not fixed, they can shuffle, fade, change and merge. When we remember, those images get re-imaged (recollected, recognized). When we experience that moment of recognition while knowing it's a first occurance, a memory has closely matched our current experience (sufficiently) and a feeling of something familiar is inevitable.

I have attempted to express the above a few times but always stepped back, fearing incomprehensible writing. Thanks.

I may add from experience that some deja vu at least correspond to our deepest desires. For example, you have somewhere in mind an image of an ideal partner (hidden from the conscious mind) and lo, you meet that person. It seems "Been there, done that.....", to the conscious mind. To the meditator who knows that all forms and names are the modified mind alone it is another matter .. of course, equally profound.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
I have attempted to express the above a few times but always stepped back, fearing incomprehensible writing. Thanks.

I may add from experience that some deja vu at least correspond to our deepest desires. For example, you have somewhere in mind an image of an ideal partner (hidden from the conscious mind) and lo, you meet that person. It seems "Been there, done that.....", to the conscious mind. To the meditator who knows that all forms and names are the modified mind alone it is another matter .. of course, equally profound.
I actually had an instance of being knocked off my seat (literally) by recognition for someone I had met for the first time.
 

factseeker88

factseeker88
I feel like we already talked about this before.

I have the same feeling, and I don't think it was resolved.

“[FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.” John Ruskin (1819 - 1900) [/FONT]
 

brokensymmetry

ground state
Last I read about this, deja vu occurs when the brain finds something very familiar, causing you to feel like you are having the experience of recalling something. Insofar as our brains are constantly trying to make connections this isn't surprising. It is interesting when it happens.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Last I read about this, deja vu occurs when the brain finds something very familiar, causing you to feel like you are having the experience of recalling something.
If you're having that feeling then you're having that feeling, not just something like it. :D

Insofar as our brains are constantly trying to make connections this isn't surprising. It is interesting when it happens.
Yes.
 

Amechania

Daimona of the Helpless
Deja vu is just a perceptual hiccup. If you experience recurrent deja vu simply remember rapidly into a paper bag and the symptoms should disappear in short order.
 

factseeker88

factseeker88
Deja vu is just a perceptual hiccup. If you experience recurrent deja vu simply remember rapidly into a paper bag and the symptoms should disappear in short order.

This happened to me before, but I can't remember where or when.

:no::no::no:

“What we think, or what we know, or what we believe is, in the end, of little consequence. The only consequence is WHAT WE DO.” John Ruskin (1819 - 1900)
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
I have had Deja vu before, it's crazy sometimes.

I watched a doc about this sort of thing, ever have a song come on the radio and you actually believed that you were already thinking of it way before it came on?
What is happening is, you hear the first note, and by the time you actually realize the song is playing, you brain already made a mental memory of it, and then your consciousnesses confuses it and you believe you were already thinking it but was not.
All within a nano second of hearing the first note.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
So then how do you explain the phenomena of hearing what's on the radio before you turn it on? That happened to me once, just as I was awakening from sleep... had this dream about a certain song, turned on the radio, and then there's the song. Was I tuning into radio waves?
 

kashmir

Well-Known Member
So then how do you explain the phenomena of hearing what's on the radio before you turn it on? That happened to me once, just as I was awakening from sleep... had this dream about a certain song, turned on the radio, and then there's the song. Was I tuning into radio waves?

Just what I said, you just think you was thinking it, after the fact.

Memories are created way before consciousnesses knows what is going on.
All in a nano second.
Plus memories do not have dates(time) attached to them, you have to remember that as well, it's not remembered because it's not important.
That is what Deja vu is.
 
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