What is energy?

[Gambit]

So, if it is also spiritual, I wonder how many electron-volt or calories a spirit has. Do you have a figure in mind?

I wasn't asking how much energy a "spirit" has. I was asking if energy can be considered spiritual as well as material or physical.

 

[Awoon]

Supreme energy is Love/God.
This supreme energy is the source of all other energies but it itself doesn't has any source. So, please don't ask me.. What is the source of this energy.

Thus, of course this energy is the Spirit of the Spirits, or "Spiritual"

Mind Energy...AKA God

 

[Gambit]

No, they are the same, its like the level of the ocean, but all is one ocean.

So, you believe all physical energy is spiritual energy and vice versa?

 

[Gambit]

Are we talking physics here? If so energy isn't a type of stuff. Its better described as something that stuff can have. It isn't form independent.

We are talking about energy - both physical and spiritual.

 

[Gambit]

Supreme energy is Love/God.
This supreme energy is the source of all other energies but it itself doesn't has any source. So, please don't ask me.. What is the source of this energy.

Thus, of course this energy is the Spirit of the Spirits, or "Spiritual"

Does this mean that all forms of energy are ultimately spiritual?

 

[viole]

I wasn't asking how much energy a "spirit" has. I was asking if energy can be considered spiritual as well as material or physical.

Well, if they are the same thing then they can be measured by the same units. Do you agree? If not, why not?

In other words: if I cannot say that a human soul or other sorts of spiritual entities correspond to a certain amount of electron-volts then we are clearly talking of two different things.

My suggestion is not to call it energy. We were there first.

I would recommend to give it some spiritual name representing some other mystical deepity. Like universal consciousness, or holistic spirit, or karma, or ubiquitous universal love, or souls or whatever else that sounds so deeply mystic and profound that cannot possibly be confused with clear-cut and factual physical definitions.

Thanks

Ciao

- viole

 

[Gambit]

Energy means various different things in different contexts but as a technical/scientific concept, we have sufficient words to describe it perfectly well without introducing such a speculative and controversial term as "spiritual".

We're discussing all contexts here.

 

[Revoltingest]

Energy?

It is measured in electron-volts. Or Joules. Or calories. Or grams, if you want.

Pbbbbbbbt!
I prefer foot pounds.

 

[Gambit]

Electromagnetic energy is light

That's only one form of physical energy.

 

[Gambit]

I don't know of any legitimate reason to conflate energy as the word is used in physics with energy as the word is used in some religious, paranormal, or spiritual discourse.

So, you believe there are basically two different types of energy - physical and spiritual?

 

[Gambit]

We can weigh and measure material,
We can measure the plasmic flow of energy,
But there is no way to measure the depth of spirituality.
~
There are three sides to that coin, the edge is continuous.

That's an interesting twist on that metaphor.

 

[Gambit]

That is a biological definition of energy.

Is there any difference between psychological energy and physiological energy?

 

[mainliner]

That's only one form of physical energy.

wow

so which came ( got created ) first in your opinion? Or is it more complex than that ?

Forms of energy


Type of energy

Description

Kinetic (≥0), that of the motion of a body
Potential A category comprising many forms in this list
Mechanical The sum of (usually macroscopic) kinetic and potential energies
Mechanical wave (≥0), a form of mechanical energy propagated by a material's oscillations
Chemical that contained in molecules
Electric that from electric fields
Magnetic that from magnetic fields
Radiant (≥0), that of electromagnetic radiation including light
Nuclear that of binding nucleons to form the atomic nucleus
Ionization that of binding an electron to its atom or molecule
Elastic that of deformation of a material (or its container) exhibiting a restorative force
Gravitational that from gravitational fields
Intrinsic, the rest energy (≥0) that equivalent to an object's rest mass
Thermal A microscopic, disordered equivalent of mechanical energy
Heat an amount of thermal energy being transferred (in a given process) in the direction of decreasing temperature
Mechanical work an amount of energy being transferred in a given process due to displacement in the direction of an applied force

 

[Gambit]

The light from the sun turns nutrients into glucose for plants ...... I think the glucose is pure carbohydrates ( carbs ) which is energy .

it fills an empty space into a plant ..... If this makes sense . ( or a human but not though photosynthesis)..... That would be silly ha

Photosynthesis appears to work though quantum computing.

 

[Gambit]

We have all seen a force in action....that obviously had no intellect behind it.

If you insist tornadoes, tidal waves, earthquakes, meteor showers, etc.....are driven by thought....
then we have so many gods to appease!
I mean really!

Did you ever consider the possibility that the whole shebang may be one entire thought-process?

 

[outhouse]

is it also spiritual?

No.

To date, spirit is something that only exist in mythology.

 

[outhouse]

Did you ever consider the possibility that the whole shebang may be one entire thought-process?

We can imagine all we like.

It is the evidence outside mythology that is important here.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Sandra Harding's 1986 discovery that Newton's Principia Mathematica is actually a rape manual.

I know her! (well, not really "know" but I'm surprised I know the name). I have her book Is Science Multicultural?: Postcolonialisms, Feminisms, and Epistemologies. I would like to think I have an open mind, but when I start reading about feminist epistemologies of science I'm reminded of a quote/quip by a female academic whose name I can't recall (I do know she was quoted by Christina Hoff Sommers; maybe it was Susan Haack? Or Margarita Levin?) in response to a paper (or review, I think by Virginia Held) on feminist-based epistemologies of science. Namely, that while one can point out in broad strokes how a different attitude towards the scientific endeavor may be fruitful, "one still wants to know whether feminists' airplanes would stay up airborne".

 

[gnostic]

Religion that use spirits, to explain what they believe in, like gods, angels, demons, or any other spiritual beings, is usually self-defeating and contradictory to what they claim.

Energy require mass, which means there matter or substance, in order for any work to be done. Mass and energy are interwine together. Energy is measurable.

According to what I have learned from the church is that spirits has no substance. No substance then mean no energy. The religious stance on spirit is that spirits are undetectable, but with energy it not only detectable, it is also quantifiable.

 

[`mud]

And the edge is circular, and without end.
~
'mud