I'm sorry, "simple"? I'm not sure I know what that word means. Is it similar to obfuscate? Or more like "complicated"? Obtuse?Emphasis on the word "simple".
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What is free will?
- Thread starter nilsz
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I'm afraid I don't entirely understand.
And I consider free will to be similar: even if it's not actually there when you get right down to the nuts and bolts, the mind is so dynamic in the way it receives and processes information, that predicting someone's choice down to the second with 100% certainty becomes impossible.
The state is dynamic: constantly switching and changing even at the smallest level of time intervals we can measure.
Computer multitasking stopped being an illusion in 2004.
...hmm.... then how come the books that I read on computer science (which I make sure are never older than 2 years), still maintain that true multitasking doesn't actually exist?
Perhaps because in a whole machine, it exists, but just doesn't exist in the individual cores that together make up the machine? (I'm still a beginner when it comes to hardware specifics; I'm just a budding bedroom game-programmer. ^_^)
Which is impossible. Therefore, it may be an illusion, but for practical purposes, i.e., for the purpose of human experience, it might as well be real.
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PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
For consumer-market machines.
Distributed supercomputers have been a thing for decades. If your processor has multiple instruction pipelines, it does so.
It's real, but its not fundamental.
If your processor has multiple instruction pipelines, it does so.
Very well, I will defer to your superior knowledge in this field. ^_^
Huh. I like that way of putting it.
Mycroft
Ministry of Serendipity
To expand on my statement...free will is the capabilty to make decisions within your own boundry. YOU are the God im refering to. And you exist.
nilsz
bzzt
If free will is something that a situation cause to arise, does that not imply that it is shaped by the wider universe? The common understanding of what free will is seems incoherent.
If free will is not something that is influenced by the situation in which it arise, that implies that it is unable to discern situations, and is thus worse than program code at making judgements.
To the people who believe that determinism implies that free will is an illusion:
When being told about determinism, do you imagine yourself being presented with a recorded tape of your life? And when viewing this tape, you are unable to change what occurs in it?
If this is the case, the utterance "I have no free will" seems to come out of the wrong mouth. Not only does it come out of the viewer of the tape, it also comes out of the person recorded in the tape. The person in the tape choosed to say that they have no free will, with a will that was operating within a deterministic system.
If you believe you have no free will, consider how this belief may affect your actions; what this belief will cause in a deterministic system.
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Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
I don't believe your definition of choice is accurate. It would be the same as saying particles choose their spin, or computers choose their output. Just because there are many possibilities doesn't mean there is a choice.
True. But the computer can only make decisions within its own boundries. Thats what i was trying to say...
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
As opposed to...?
It's not as if a human can make decisions regarding the orbit of Pluto.
Out of curiosity, do you think Freewill implies omnipotence?
Basically thats what i mean...we all have boundries that surround our freewill. I cant steal a chocolate bar if there is no chocolate bar kind of thing. Its just the sum of all possible decisions within a boundry.
Sort of...
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Absolutely not, however her definition of free will was rather pointless, unless someone believes they control the cosmos.
I said nothing about the cosmos...you did. Thats not a good reference point to use with freewill in my opinion.