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What is spirit?

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
There is a Holy Spirit and an evil spirit. The spirit of something, for example, the Spirit of Holiness, the Spirit of Love, or the Spirit of Science, is not a specific formula, a kiss, charity to a beggar; it is the very concept of such things and behavior. The satan is the spirit of death, the spirit of cancer, the spirit of madness and division.
Every Christian should not be fearful but should be afraid.
If he is not afraid of satan, he is not scared of getting cancer. And this disease is terrible for everyone. Even Jesus Christ was not shy about his holy feelings and showed fear in the Garden of Gethsemane. Fear, but not timidity. Define Knowledge. To avoid tautology, I will say this: Knowledge in a person is what belongs to the God of this person. Because the word Knowledge is the name of God. And atheists know that their god does not exist because their god told them so. Lied. It was satan -- dead, devoid of the gift of existence idol. Friedrich Nietzsche has said that god is dead, but it was about satan, not the True God. The satan, being a god, makes his unwilling followers believe that they are homosexuals, that they need to change their gender from male to female, or that a person and a flea are very distant blood relatives (this ``Theory of Evolution'' lies to children).
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
There is a Holy Spirit and an evil spirit.
Prove it.

The spirit of something, for example, the Spirit of Holiness, the Spirit of Love, or the Spirit of Science, is not a specific formula, a kiss, charity to a beggar; it is the very concept of such things and behavior. The satan is the spirit of death, the spirit of cancer, the spirit of madness and division.
So spirit is an illusion and metaphor.

Every Christian should not be fearful but should be afraid.
Thanks, this clears up a lot.

If he is not afraid of satan, he is not scared of getting cancer. And this disease is terrible for everyone. Even Jesus Christ was not shy about his holy feelings and showed fear in the Garden of Gethsemane. Fear, but not timidity. Define Knowledge. To avoid tautology, I will say this: Knowledge in a person is what belongs to the God of this person. Because the word Knowledge is the name of God.
So Christians have fear even though they supposedly have everlasting life. Sounds like they aren't convinced.

And atheists know that their god does not exist because their god told them so.
This is exactly what atheists think. How did you find out?

Lied. It was satan -- dead, devoid of the gift of existence idol.
Atheists don't believe in any supernatural beings, including Satan.

Friedrich Nietzsche has said that god is dead, but it was about satan, not the True God.
What he meant was that the Catholic Church killed God through their irrational dogma and elaborate hierarchy of authority and greed.

The satan, being a god, makes his unwilling followers believe that they are homosexuals, that they need to change their gender from male to female, or that a person and a flea are very distant blood relatives (this ``Theory of Evolution'' lies to children).
And you finish this OP with offensive statements both gays and transgender people. And you think you know what spirit is? I suggest those who are outcasts from social norms like gays and transgender are exactly the people Jesus valued as spiritual beings. And you have abandoned Jesus in favor of adopting right wing extremist intolerance and hate. You seem to be the very evil you claim atheists have, that gays have, that trans people have, and you expose it here for all to see except yourself. I suggest you be careful about accusing others of lies.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
What is spirit?

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F1fan

Veteran Member
Religious dogmas are proven to theists, not atheists.
Theists are influenced to assume spirits and gods exist. Atheists don't believe in these ideas because there is a lack of evidence, and there is no plausible explanation for them. So the people you want to convince is atheists. If you can't, then you'd better learn to not make false claims in these forums. It's untruthful, and you know it.

I do not care about atheists. Main thing is this: theists know their God.
Of course you care about atheists. You have a huge bias against them, and you seem to feel threatened by them. You mention atheists quite often for a person who claims to not care. Another untruthful claim here?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Are we having freedom of speech?
Freedom of speech involves the government and citizens, not your posts in this forum as you express your lack of ethics. You are free to expose your lack of compassion, lack of understanding, lack of self-awareness as much as you want as long as you follow the forum's rules.

The point I make is that you claim some spirituality and belief in God, then show extreme prejudice and intolerance against gays and trans people. You don't see the contradiction in that? Atheists have better morals than you present in this thread.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
They haven't proven anything. If they had, then atheists would acknowledge it.
No, atheists will never acknowledge proof of the religious dogmas, because atheists and theists are totally different paradigms: "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
I am not commanding people, I do not condemn people.
Who cares what you have to say when it is rampant with false claim and untrue statements?

I do not like that people sin.
What your religion says is your business. It's immoral to use your extremist dogma to condemn and judge others. Jesus taught to not judge DIRECTLY, yet you ignore it. And you want us to think you are moral and spiritual?

But I love all people, except Adolf Hitler.
I don't see your prejudice and condemnation of gays and trans people as love. And you don't accept the biology of evolution, so this illustrates you are not rational in your beliefs.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
No, atheists will never acknowledge proof of the religious dogmas, because atheists and theists are totally different paradigms.
Not until you religious extremists offer evidence that your dogmas are true outside of human imagination. That atheists ARE rational is what we value. That we don't accept religious dogmas is a virtue, not a sickness. This seems to agitate your insecurities. Not a very spiritual way to be, is it?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
There is a Holy Spirit and an evil spirit. The spirit of something, for example, the Spirit of Holiness, the Spirit of Love, or the Spirit of Science, is not a specific formula, a kiss, charity to a beggar; it is the very concept of such things and behavior. The satan is the spirit of death, the spirit of cancer, the spirit of madness and division.
Every Christian should not be fearful but should be afraid.
If he is not afraid of satan, he is not scared of getting cancer. And this disease is terrible for everyone. Even Jesus Christ was not shy about his holy feelings and showed fear in the Garden of Gethsemane. Fear, but not timidity. Define Knowledge. To avoid tautology, I will say this: Knowledge in a person is what belongs to the God of this person. Because the word Knowledge is the name of God. And atheists know that their god does not exist because their god told them so. Lied. It was satan -- dead, devoid of the gift of existence idol. Friedrich Nietzsche has said that god is dead, but it was about satan, not the True God. The satan, being a god, makes his unwilling followers believe that they are homosexuals, that they need to change their gender from male to female, or that a person and a flea are very distant blood relatives (this ``Theory of Evolution'' lies to children).


there are two types of will, spirit.

there is the service to self, or selfishness. These are the tares, the goats, the wolves that devour, the children of belial. They want to be loved but they are generally not loving except in service to me, mine, ours, etc. They judge on forms, labels, outward appearances. They have two sets of rules. One for themselves and another for other as self. They usually hold other as self to the higher standard. They are those jesus' referred to as hypocrites.

the other will, spirit, is service to all as self type. These are the wheat, the sheep, the children of the name. They do not look at forms, labels. They judge based on loving vs unloving action. they follow the law of one, the golden rule.
 
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Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Religious dogmas are proven to theists, not atheists. I do not care about atheists. Main thing is this: theists know their God.

If religious dogmas have been proven to theists, then what the heck do you need faith for? :shrug:
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
If religious dogmas have been proven to theists, then what the heck do you need faith for? :shrug:
Faith is not blind. Faith is loyalty (faithfulness) to the Good. Many ones are
not faithful to the path of goodness. They can abort an unborn baby without a
sound reason. They can shoot and murder anytime they decide to. Precisely as
the Biblical Cain has murdered his brother Abel. But this is sin. It is
written: ``Be faithful, even to the point of death'' Revelation 2:10. It is
not written: ``Have faith in God, even to death,'' but the Bible means this.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
No, atheists will never acknowledge proof of the religious dogmas, because atheists and theists are totally different paradigms: "If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31.

Not really proof, more like testimony.

Why don't I not rely on the testimony of others?
Because I know humans are capable of lying.
And even with 100% certainty about what they testify, they can be mistaken.

Having learned of the unreliability of human testimony, it is very hard to trust what comes from another person's mouth at face value.
Even if I'd rather it be the truth.
Even if someone had died and came back to tell a tale of heaven, I'd suspect they hadn't really died and experienced a dream induced by whatever state of semi-consciousness they had experienced.

Of course if I wanted to believe, why would I question them.
I neither want to believe nor disbelieve so such tales are not as compelling as they may be to you.
The Bible gets this right.

So I'd hope if such a being as God exists, they'd come up with a better plan.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Is atheism scientific?
Non-belief in religious concepts is consistent and corresponds to science and its methodology as both approach questions rationally, objectively, and through evidence.

But why has physics not proven that there is no spiritual culture?
Why would it, totally unrelated.

God is part of the spiritual culture.
Then spiritual culture just means being religious. So what?
 
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