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What is the basis for authority in your denomination?

ether-ore

Active Member
I'd like to know what is the basis for authority to administer ordinances in your denomination?
 
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Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
For Christians and Jews: I'd like to know what is the basis for authority to administer ordinances in your denomination?
Jews can't very well answer this question in the Christianity DIR, I'm afraid. Maybe you could try posting this again in the Abrahamic Religions DIR, or have a mod move it?
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I do not know what you mean by Administer Ordinances.
Ordinances is not a term often used in christian denominations. as Ordinances are determined by three factors: they were instituted by Christ, they were taught by the apostles, and they were practiced by the early church. Only two ordinances qualify under those terms, Baptism and the Eucharist.
The Catholic church recognize seven Sacraments, whilst most Protestant churches recognize only two, but the remaining five are... "Commonly called Sacraments but not to be counted for Sacraments of the Gospel"

The Authority of Christ is passed through the episcopate... Bishop to Bishop. Priests and deacons are ordained to minister under the authority of a Bishop.
When a bishop is consecrated it is usual for at least seven other bishops to lay on hands at the anointing, though at times three might be regarded as a minimum.
Whilst it is usual for a priest to baptize, in extreme circumstances any baptized christian can stand in.
Only a priest can officiate at the Eucharist.
 

ether-ore

Active Member
I do not know what you mean by Administer Ordinances.
Ordinances is not a term often used in christian denominations. as Ordinances are determined by three factors: they were instituted by Christ, they were taught by the apostles, and they were practiced by the early church. Only two ordinances qualify under those terms, Baptism and the Eucharist.
The Catholic church recognize seven Sacraments, whilst most Protestant churches recognize only two, but the remaining five are... "Commonly called Sacraments but not to be counted for Sacraments of the Gospel"

The Authority of Christ is passed through the episcopate... Bishop to Bishop. Priests and deacons are ordained to minister under the authority of a Bishop.
When a bishop is consecrated it is usual for at least seven other bishops to lay on hands at the anointing, though at times three might be regarded as a minimum.
Whilst it is usual for a priest to baptize, in extreme circumstances any baptized christian can stand in.
Only a priest can officiate at the Eucharist.
Yes, I mean by "ordinances" those rites required for entrance into the body of Christ. I had not heard how that worked before in Catholicism. I'm grateful to have the understanding, but I'm curious. What are those other five Sacraments?
So, the claim is that this Bishop to Bishop transference of authority is an unbroken chain extending back to Peter?
Also, do you know how authority is passed along in Protestant churches? It seems to me that since they broke off from Catholicism, they really can have no chain of authority.
Are you calling yourself a heretic because you have left the Catholic church?
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Yes, I mean by "ordinances" those rites required for entrance into the body of Christ. I had not heard how that worked before in Catholicism. I'm grateful to have the understanding, but I'm curious. What are those other five Sacraments?
So, the claim is that this Bishop to Bishop transference of authority is an unbroken chain extending back to Peter?
Also, do you know how authority is passed along in Protestant churches? It seems to me that since they broke off from Catholicism, they really can have no chain of authority.
Are you calling yourself a heretic because you have left the Catholic church?

Not at all, I am an Anglican. Though I have some unitarian beliefs hence heretical.
The Anglican church traces its bishops through the same line as the Catholic and Orthodox and Coptic Bishops.

It was quite some while before the Catholics disassociated themselves from us. But that is their problem not ours.
The catholic faith was restored under Queen Mary and the final break not till Queen Elizabeth or some might argue King James, of Bible fame. Henry viii considered himself a catholic even though he assumed authority over the church in England. Much in the same way Luther thought himself a reforming catholic.
There are seven sacraments in the Catholic Church: Baptism, Confirmation, Eucharist, Penance, Anointing of the Sick, Matrimony, and Holy Orders. Jesus only instituted Baptism and the Eucharist. The others were instituted at various times by the church.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
In the church I attend, the ultimate authority is the Bible and the sole rite to enter the body of Christ is to trust in what Jesus did on the cross, solely.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
One enters my Church through Baptism, Chrismation/Confirmation (Acts 8:16-17, 19:5-6) and the Eucharist. If one is to become a deacon, priest or bishop, one is ordained through Holy Orders (Acts 6:1-6, 1 Timothy 4:14).
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I'd like to know what is the basis for authority to administer ordinances in your denomination?
In the denomination I was raised in (Baptist) all decisions are made by a vote of the members of the local church you are part of.
 
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