What is the "message" of the Gospels?

[Desert Snake]

In your own words, and without using verses or Scripture, what is the "message" of the Gospels?
Also to keep it coherent just give the most important or a few reasons, not a whole list or diatribe making it impossible and too subjective to discern any more/less important messages

 

[savagewind]

YHWH is True.
Truth leads to YHWH who is The Life Giver.
We can know the truth by believing Yeshoshua.

 

[outhouse]

In your own words, and without using verses or Scripture, what is the "message" of the Gospels?
Also to keep it coherent just give the most important or a few reasons, not a whole list or diatribe making it impossible and too subjective to discern any more/less important messages

Its my opinion by generalizing it into a conclusion as a sort of reply.

The beauty is simple lost.



Its like saying to take 1 letters out of of the alphabet, to describe them all.

 

[Desert Snake]

Its my opinion by generalizing it into a conclusion as a sort of reply.

The beauty is simple lost.



Its like saying to take 1 letters out of of the alphabet, to describe them all.

So you don't want to describe even one important message? Are all these messages of equal importance?/

 

[fallingblood]

In your own words, and without using verses or Scripture, what is the "message" of the Gospels?
Also to keep it coherent just give the most important or a few reasons, not a whole list or diatribe making it impossible and too subjective to discern any more/less important messages

I think the basic message is (and I would actually argue the Gospels probably are just an extended parable that gets at this point [I believe that John Dominic Crossan has also made this point about the Gospels being an extended parable]) centered around the resurrection.

There are many messages that can be found in the Gospels, but I do think the basic message is the resurrection.

If you want, I can expand on that.

 

[Pegg]

the Gospels present the evidence that Jesus was the Messiah as promised in the Hebrew scriptures, and present a true account of his 3 and half year ministry, death and resurrection.

 

[Me Myself]

the Gospels present the evidence that Jesus was the Messiah as promised in the Hebrew scriptures, and present a true account of his 3 and half year ministry, death and resurrection.

As much as the Iliad is the evidence of Achiles rage and bodily invulnerability and the Odyssey of Odiseus wisdom against cyclops.

 

[Windwalker]

Love. Not religion.

 

[Pegg]

i thought i might be good to add that each gospel focuses on a different aspect of jesus as the Messiah.

Matthew’s Gospel emphasized that the theme of Jesus’ preaching was the Kingdom. And how strongly Jesus had stressed the importance of having the right motive in worshiping God.

Luke focuses more on the fulfillment of Hebrew scriptures in relation to Jesus and seeks to build a person’s confidence in the truthfulness of Gods written word.

Marks gospel also shows how Jesus fulfilled the hebrew prophecies, but he especially focuses on the heavenly Kingdom that Jesus preached as his primary work. Mark highlights Jesus teachings regarding the guiding principles for those who would gain life through the Kingdom.

John focuses on Jesus pre-human life as a heavenly son of God. He alone describes Jesus as the 'only begotten' son of God, and he makes known the intimate love between Father and Son, as well as the blessed, loving relationship to be found by being in union with them. Love is definitely the theme of Johns gospel...and living in harmony with the love Jesus showed is what brings a person in line to receive Gods favor.

 

[Me Myself]

i thought i might be good to add that each gospel focuses on a different aspect of jesus as the Messiah.

Matthew’s Gospel emphasized that the theme of Jesus’ preaching was the Kingdom. And how strongly Jesus had stressed the importance of having the right motive in worshiping God.

Luke focuses more on the fulfillment of Hebrew scriptures in relation to Jesus and seeks to build a person’s confidence in the truthfulness of Gods written word.

Marks gospel also shows how Jesus fulfilled the hebrew prophecies, but he especially focuses on the heavenly Kingdom that Jesus preached as his primary work. Mark highlights Jesus teachings regarding the guiding principles for those who would gain life through the Kingdom.

John focuses on Jesus pre-human life as a heavenly son of God. He alone describes Jesus as the 'only begotten' son of God, and he makes known the intimate love between Father and Son, as well as the blessed, loving relationship to be found by being in union with them. Love is definitely the theme of Johns gospel...and living in harmony with the love Jesus showed is what brings a person in line to receive Gods favor.

And for me to add

Contradictions of the Gospel

 

[Shermana]

In your own words, and without using verses or Scripture, what is the "message" of the Gospels?
Also to keep it coherent just give the most important or a few reasons, not a whole list or diatribe making it impossible and too subjective to discern any more/less important messages

To obey the Torah as Jesus defined it and to accept that he is the designated overseer of the whole Earth granted authority by the Father Himself, the Spiritual King of Israel, to do good works as the key to one's salvation, and to avoid breaking the commandments and following bad advice on their application.

 

[Walkntune]

In your own words, and without using verses or Scripture, what is the "message" of the Gospels?
Also to keep it coherent just give the most important or a few reasons, not a whole list or diatribe making it impossible and too subjective to discern any more/less important messages

Redemption

 

[Pegg]

To obey the Torah as Jesus defined it and to accept that he is the designated overseer of the whole Earth granted authority by the Father Himself, the Spiritual King of Israel, to do good works as the key to one's salvation, and to avoid breaking the commandments and following bad advice on their application.

hey Shermana,

im just interested in your comment about "obeying Torah as Jesus defined it".... what information do you use to determine how Jesus defined the law?

 

[Shermana]

hey Shermana,

im just interested in your comment about "obeying Torah as Jesus defined it".... what information do you use to determine how Jesus defined the law?

For example, he said it was okay to perform emergency situations on Sabbath and explained that eye for an eye was not meant to be taken so literally. Modern Judaism pretty much says the same thing nowadays.

He also was clear that fringes are not meant to be extravagent and for show. There's also issues like of what exactly he meant to the Rich Man when told him to sell everything and follow him. In the Gospel to the Hebrews, the likely basis of what became "Matthew", it says that the Rich Man had neglected obeying the commandments to help the poor, so in order to make up for failing to obey that one all his life, he had to sell everything he had.

 

[Pegg]

For example, he said it was okay to perform emergency situations on Sabbath and explained that eye for an eye was not meant to be taken so literally. Modern Judaism pretty much says the same thing nowadays.

He also was clear that fringes are not meant to be extravagent and for show. There's also issues like of what exactly he meant to the Rich Man when told him to sell everything and follow him. In the Gospel to the Hebrews, the likely basis of what became "Matthew", it says that the Rich Man had neglected obeying the commandments to help the poor, so in order to make up for failing to obey that one all his life, he had to sell everything he had.

so do you take the definition of Jesus teachings from the gospels alone, or from other sources?

 

[maj123]

In your own words, and without using verses or Scripture, what is the "message" of the Gospels?
Also to keep it coherent just give the most important or a few reasons, not a whole list or diatribe making it impossible and too subjective to discern any more/less important messages

If you mean the true message of the Gospels: I could say it's really what
stated in the Quran that to worship only one god ALLah and not to associate
with him partners and this the main message of all the prophets including
Isaa (Jesus) in quran you will find:

[005:072] Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allâh is the Messiah ['خsâ (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ['خsâ (Jesus)] said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allâh, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allâh, then Allâh has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong doers) there are no helpers.

[005:073] Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allâh is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no Ilâh (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilâh (God Allâh). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.

[005:074] Will they not turn with repentance to Allâh and ask His forgiveness? For Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

[005:075] The Messiah ['خsâ (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Maryam (Mary)] was a Siddîqah [i.e. she believed in the Words of Allâh and His Books (see Verse 66:12)]. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allâh does not eat). Look how We make the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them; yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth).

[005:076] Say (O Muhammad [sal-Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam] to mankind): "How do you worship besides Allâh something which has no power either to harm or benefit you? But it is Allâh Who is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower."

with my best wishes
Maj

 

[Pegg]

If you mean the true message of the Gospels: I could say it's really what
stated in the Quran that to worship only one god ALLah and not to associate
with him partners and this the main message of all the prophets including
Isaa (Jesus) in quran you will find:

[005:072] Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allâh is the Messiah ['خsâ (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ['خsâ (Jesus)] said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allâh, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allâh, then Allâh has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong doers) there are no helpers.

[005:073] Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allâh is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no Ilâh (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilâh (God Allâh). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.

[005:074] Will they not turn with repentance to Allâh and ask His forgiveness? For Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

[005:075] The Messiah ['خsâ (Jesus)], son of Maryam (Mary), was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him. His mother [Maryam (Mary)] was a Siddîqah [i.e. she believed in the Words of Allâh and His Books (see Verse 66:12)]. They both used to eat food (as any other human being, while Allâh does not eat). Look how We make the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to them; yet look how they are deluded away (from the truth).

[005:076] Say (O Muhammad [sal-Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam] to mankind): "How do you worship besides Allâh something which has no power either to harm or benefit you? But it is Allâh Who is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower."

with my best wishes
Maj

The OP is asking what is the message of the gospels.

unfortunately the Quran doesnt really explain any of Jesus teachings or details of his ministry... it only explains that he is a prophet sent by God.

To know anything about what he taught you would need to consult the injeel.

 

[Shermana]

so do you take the definition of Jesus teachings from the gospels alone, or from other sources?

Other sources included. I see no reason why the traditional canon is the only legitimate collection.

 

[Pegg]

Other sources included. I see no reason why the traditional canon is the only legitimate collection.

what other sources do you use to define Jesus teachings?

 

[Shermana]

what other sources do you use to define Jesus teachings?

Some writings that are incorrectly called "Gnostic" but are completely in line with Jewish Christianity and others that are obviously Jewish-Christian like the Didache and the Clementine Literature (Which are not the Epistles of Clement, which is another topic of discussion as well). But that's for another thread. The only point I want to make here is that "Gospel to the Hebrews" shows an example of earlier tradition containing things that may have been edited out of the later redactions of the Gospels which became the standard canon, so that some of the message may have been lost.