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What is the most important message of Jesus?

His number one message is

  • A.Worship God Alone

    Votes: 11 84.6%
  • B.Trinity

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • C.Worship me

    Votes: 2 15.4%

  • Total voters
    13

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member

Not just any sort of love of course, but Jesus gave us a NEW commandment about LOVE at John 13:34-35 - to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus did. Please also see John 4:23-24

Although Jesus healed and fed some people and resurrected some people, Jesus main message, or his most important message is mentioned at Luke 4:43 because the miracles Jesus performed were just a preview, or coming attraction, of what Jesus will be doing on a grand global scale during his coming 1,000 year governmental rulership over earth. That is why Jesus wants the good news of God's kingdom government - Matthew 24:14 - proclaimed on an international scale just as it is being done earth-wide today before we see the end come of all wickedness on earth, and then Jesus will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of good will for the healing of earth's nations.- Revelation 22:2
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
According to my belief Jesus' number one message was to worship God alone.

Yes, Jesus worshiped his God alone - John 4:23-24
Coupled with that worship of his God: Jesus' main focus, or main mission, was his preaching and teaching work - Matthew 28:19-20.
That international preaching/teaching work would be done by having self-sacrificing love for others - 1 John 3:23; John 13:34-35
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Not just any sort of love of course, but Jesus gave us a NEW commandment about LOVE at John 13:34-35 - to have the same self-sacrificing love for others as Jesus did. Please also see John 4:23-24

Although Jesus healed and fed some people and resurrected some people, Jesus main message, or his most important message is mentioned at Luke 4:43 because the miracles Jesus performed were just a preview, or coming attraction, of what Jesus will be doing on a grand global scale during his coming 1,000 year governmental rulership over earth. That is why Jesus wants the good news of God's kingdom government - Matthew 24:14 - proclaimed on an international scale just as it is being done earth-wide today before we see the end come of all wickedness on earth, and then Jesus will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of good will for the healing of earth's nations.- Revelation 22:2

Where did you get all that........ apart from John and John's Revelations, who never knew Jesus.
And your resurrections, such as Lazarus, come from John.
Luke didn't know Jesus. Paul didn't care about Jesus, and took no interest in tales of his mission.
And there was no International scale.......... Jesus was a Galilean peasant who took up JtB's mission after his arrest and held it for about a year. His message was to his own, to stick together, love one another, in the coming struggles against the upper class quislings who had left the old ways, attracted to past invaders' fashions, and ways.

Nope......... LOVE, was Jesus's message.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Your LATER written Christian texts have no impact on what Tanakh actually says.

What you have been shown consistently are New Testament scriptures that provide evidence that Jesus is the Messiah prophesied in the Tanakh.

Your interpretation of the Tanakh does not allow for any future Messiah, because you see only what is TEMPORAL in every passage of scripture.

It's interesting, for example, that you end your quotation of Psalm 2 at verse 7. In verse 8 it says, 'Ask for me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.'
According to your understanding, this must refer to king David. So David was given the heathen for his inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for his possession. In his 40 years as king, David may have extended his territory but in no way did it encompass the 'uttermost parts of the earth'. This must therefore be referring to someone else, some future king.

Once again, quoting Exodus and Hosea with only a temporal idea of Israel, allows for only half the story. You follow the journey of the historic exodus without seeing that Christ and his BODY follow the same journey SPIRITUALLY.
 

k4c

Member
Let's ask Jesus.

Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”


Love is the motivating force behind worship.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

'On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.'
THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE. Is this New Testament or Old Testament?

Why should Jesus come to repeat a message already recorded in scripture? People already knew that these were the two most important commandments. BUT WHAT THEY COULD NOT DO WAS FULFIL THE COMMANDMENTS!!

SIn stands in the way of our ability to love. Until we are free from sin, we are slaves to our flesh.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Where did you get all that........ apart from John and John's Revelations, who never knew Jesus.
And your resurrections, such as Lazarus, come from John.
Luke didn't know Jesus. Paul didn't care about Jesus, and took no interest in tales of his mission.
And there was no International scale.......... Jesus was a Galilean peasant who took up JtB's mission after his arrest and held it for about a year. His message was to his own, to stick together, love one another, in the coming struggles against the upper class quislings who had left the old ways, attracted to past invaders' fashions, and ways.
Nope......... LOVE, was Jesus's message.

' Self-sacrificing love '. Matthew 24:14 - which love includes telling the whole world about the good news of God's kingdom.
What was the main theme of Jesus preaching work according to Luke 4:43 ?
Gospel writer Luke, who also wrote Acts, wrote that Jesus' message was to be taken to the uttermost parts of the earth.
- Acts of the Apostles 1:8; Acts of the Apostles 1:13 . Thus showing just how extensive or global Jesus' spiritual work would become.

John, the son of Zebedee and Salome - Matthew 10:2; Matthew 27:55-56; Mark 3:17; Mark 15:40; Luke 6:14 was the apostle that Jesus' loved - John 20:2; John 21:20
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
'On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.'
THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MINUTE. Is this New Testament or Old Testament?

Why should Jesus come to repeat a message already recorded in scripture? People already knew that these were the two most important commandments. BUT WHAT THEY COULD NOT DO WAS FULFILL THE COMMANDMENTS!!
Sin stands in the way of our ability to love. Until we are free from sin, we are slaves to our flesh.

When Jesus often prefaced his statements with the words, " it is written " Jesus meant already written in the old Hebrew Scriptures thus basing his teachings on the old. - Luke chapter 4.

In the Christian Scriptures Jesus gives us a NEW commandment at John 13:34-35 to have self-sacrificing love for others as he did.
Yes, sin stands in the way of love, but when we do our best Jesus' ransom - 1 John 1:7 - fills in the gaps, so to speak, until the coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over earth by Christ Jesus begins. Revelation 22:2
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Let's ask Jesus.
Matthew 22:36-40 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?” Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”
Love is the motivating force behind worship.

Any thoughts about Jesus' NEW commandment at John 13:34-35 and John 15:12 ?
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
In the Christian Scriptures Jesus gives us a NEW commandment at John 13:34-35 to have self-sacrificing love for others as he did.
Yes, sin stands in the way of love, but when we do our best Jesus' ransom - 1 John 1:7 - fills in the gaps, so to speak, until the coming 1,000-year governmental rulership over earth by Christ Jesus begins. Revelation 22:2

Doing OUR BEST is not enough. God is calling on us to be perfect, and without the strength of the Holy Spirit to overcome we will surely fall short of perfection.
1 John 3:23,24. 'And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.'

It's true that we must want to do what is commanded by God. But we also need HIS spirit to achieve this perfection. We must be born-again.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
The difference between the old commandments (Deuteronomy and Leviticus) and the new (John 13 and 15) are found in the expression 'as I have loved you'. So, to be able to love as Jesus loved, we must have HIS SPIRIT IN US. We must also walk by the spirit and not make choices that fulfil the lusts of the flesh. Temptations don't disappear because you're born-again!! In fact, I would argue that temptations and tests increase because you are now more of a threat to the adversary. But we are given the strength to overcome.
 

k4c

Member
Any thoughts about Jesus' NEW commandment at John 13:34-35 and John 15:12 ?

Do you really think God wanting mankind to love one another is a new commandment? No way!

1 John 2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment to you, but an old commandment which you have had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which you heard from the beginning. Again, a new commandment I write to you, which thing is true in Him and in you, because the darkness is passing away, and the true light is already shining. He who says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness until now.He who loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no cause for stumbling in him.

All the law of God is to direct us in loving God and man. The problem is that you can't institutionalize love through a set of does and don't because it just makes mankind legal not loving. The teachings of Jesus bring life to the words in stone.
 
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