AlphaAlex115
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Afraid not ;^).
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What is the oldest religion?
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Afraid not ;^).
AlphaAlex115
Active Member
One of the oldest religions may be the worship of fat chicks. I'm serious.
Being nice to fat chicks certainly rewards you greatly.
Wow. You turned that into something ambiguously sexist.
How can anyone know? You have to consider there may have been some people who worshipped disease who did not live to be recorded for example. Perhaps even volcano worship.
During prehistory, they had made a lot of figurines of pregnant women. I could assume it something to do with fertility; but without any kind of explanation, there is no way to know. Also, inside certain caves they had paintings; animals, chimera. a room with a lot of footprints, and things of that nature. I learned about all of this during my Physical Anthropology class and found it quite interesting. Whether any of that has to do with religion, there is no way to know for sure.
xkatz
Well-Known Member
Or maybe ancient men just had pregnant fetishes?
You never know. :biglaugh:Or maybe ancient men just had pregnant fetishes?
outhouse
Atheistically
Childbirth was not a joyful time. 25% mortality rate during birth.
Of those that lived, 25% to 50% mortality rate for children under 5.
I always thought the venus statues might not have been fertility as much as surviving childbirth luck charm
roger1440
I do stuff
Yep. Check this site out. Venus figurines | Notable Women
Do a search for "Venus figurines"
Venus figurines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ametist
Active Member
Yeah, we are throwing around guesses, why dont you join?
Actually, i am platonic with shamanism thus i gave its name ;-)
:yes: Ramped speculation is always a possibility. :no:
Which raises the question....is religion really the oldest profession?One of the oldest religions may be the worship of fat chicks. I'm serious.
Yep. Check this site out. Venus figurines | Notable Women
Do a search for "Venus figurines"
Venus figurines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That head is awfully strange
firedragon
Veteran Member
As far as I know the date of inception of a religion is very difficult to phase. There are those who claim that their religion existed from time immemorial as in most religions because they begin with creation etc.
The thing with religion is you can never say what is the oldest. There are those who have scripture that are claimed to be as old as 7000 years. Most Hindu's claim the Rig Veda to predate 5000 BC. Even some paleographers validate it though the manuscripts don't age so far.
The Australian Aborigines religion of God Atnatu is believed to be extremely old and some date it to 60,000 years earlier.
As far as manuscripts go, the oldest Christian Manuscript is dated to be later than 107 AC but that's through paleography and not carbon dating. This is the Papyrus P52. If religion means worshiping someone then Pharaohs were worshiped. Thus Egyptian religions then get validity as old because there are many ancient artifacts and tablets found. Some cave paintings have been found dating 300k BC to show that Shamanism is so ancient. But their core belief is not known while their belief that a divine person can go into a state of consciousness to communicate with spirits or animals.
Texts of Taoism dates back to 4th or 5th century BCE. Zoroastrianism seems to be the documented oldest monotheistic religion, I mean well documented to date 6th century BC with a description of the religion, not named exists in The Histories by Heredotus who is a Greek Historian, his work dates back to the 4th century BCE.
The oldest recorded text that record religions practice is from Egypt at least 2,300 years BC in the Pyramid texts. I don't think my dates are completely accurate but is at least correct to the century.
Its a confusing state of affairs.
firedragon
Veteran Member
I think like prostitution is the oldest profession if the word religion comes from the latin word religo that actually means to bind or restrict, then worship of women must predate every bloody thing.
Peace.
Peace.
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It's not meant to be realistic. It's art.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
None of these Venuses had faces even though other details are carved in, and some anthropologists who specialize in this area believe it may be that they didn't want these figurines to look like one of their own people. Since all of them are rather "hefty", they well may be fertility goddesses.
If you're interested in it, check out the work of archaeologist Marija Gimbutas.
"The main theme of Goddess symbolism is the mystery of birth and death and the renewal of life, not only human but all life on earth and indeed in the whole cosmos."
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