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What Is the Purpose of the President's Pardon Power?

Nous

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The Constitution itself merely provides the President with the power to issue pardons in cases of federal crimes (Art. II, Sec. 2, Cl. 1: “The President . . . shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment”), but does not elucidate any purpose. However, in Federalist Papers Hamilton engages in a relatively lengthy discussion of the issue of the pardon power, devoting almost all of #74 to it, though much of this entails an attempt to justify providing the President, rather than the legislature or other body, with this power. The rationale that Hamilton offers for this seems rather strained at best. He wrote:

[The President is] authorized to grant "reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, EXCEPT IN CASES OF IMPEACHMENT.'' Humanity and good policy conspire to dictate, that the benign prerogative of pardoning should be as little as possible fettered or embarrassed. The criminal code of every country partakes so much of necessary severity, that without an easy access to exceptions in favor of unfortunate guilt, justice would wear a countenance too sanguinary and cruel. As the sense of responsibility is always strongest, in proportion as it is undivided, it may be inferred that a single man would be most ready to attend to the force of those motives which might plead for a mitigation of the rigor of the law, and least apt to yield to considerations which were calculated to shelter a fit object of its vengeance. The reflection that the fate of a fellow-creature depended on his sole fiat, would naturally inspire scrupulousness and caution; the dread of being accused of weakness or connivance, would beget equal circumspection, though of a different kind. On the other hand, as men generally derive confidence from their numbers, they might often encourage each other in an act of obduracy, and might be less sensible to the apprehension of suspicion or censure for an injudicious or affected clemency. On these accounts, one man appears to be a more eligible dispenser of the mercy of government, than a body of men.

The expediency of vesting the power of pardoning in the President has, if I mistake not, been only contested in relation to the crime of treason. This, it has been urged, ought to have depended upon the assent of one, or both, of the branches of the legislative body. I shall not deny that there are strong reasons to be assigned for requiring in this particular the concurrence of that body, or of a part of it. As treason is a crime levelled at the immediate being of the society, when the laws have once ascertained the guilt of the offender, there seems a fitness in referring the expediency of an act of mercy towards him to the judgment of the legislature. And this ought the rather to be the case, as the supposition of the connivance of the Chief Magistrate ought not to be entirely excluded. But there are also strong objections to such a plan. It is not to be doubted, that a single man of prudence and good sense is better fitted, in delicate conjunctures, to balance the motives which may plead for and against the remission of the punishment, than any numerous body whatever. It deserves particular attention, that treason will often be connected with seditions which embrace a large proportion of the community; as lately happened in Massachusetts. In every such case, we might expect to see the representation of the people tainted with the same spirit which had given birth to the offense. And when parties were pretty equally matched, the secret sympathy of the friends and favorers of the condemned person, availing itself of the good-nature and weakness of others, might frequently bestow impunity where the terror of an example was necessary.

On the other hand, when the sedition had proceeded from causes which had inflamed the resentments of the major party, they might often be found obstinate and inexorable, when policy demanded a conduct of forbearance and clemency. But the principal argument for reposing the power of pardoning in this case to the Chief Magistrate is this: in seasons of insurrection or rebellion, there are often critical moments, when a welltimed offer of pardon to the insurgents or rebels may restore the tranquillity of the commonwealth; and which, if suffered to pass unimproved, it may never be possible afterwards to recall. The dilatory process of convening the legislature, or one of its branches, for the purpose of obtaining its sanction to the measure, would frequently be the occasion of letting slip the golden opportunity. The loss of a week, a day, an hour, may sometimes be fatal. If it should be observed, that a discretionary power, with a view to such contingencies, might be occasionally conferred upon the President, it may be answered in the first place, that it is questionable, whether, in a limited Constitution, that power could be delegated by law; and in the second place, that it would generally be impolitic beforehand to take any step which might hold out the prospect of impunity. A proceeding of this kind, out of the usual course, would be likely to be construed into an argument of timidity or of weakness, and would have a tendency to embolden guilt.​

The Avalon Project : Federalist No 74

In #69, Hamilton briefly and superficially considers the Presidential pardon power in a single paragraph:

The power of the President, in respect to pardons, would extend to all cases, EXCEPT THOSE OF IMPEACHMENT. The governor of New York may pardon in all cases, even in those of impeachment, except for treason and murder. Is not the power of the governor, in this article, on a calculation of political consequences, greater than that of the President? All conspiracies and plots against the government, which have not been matured into actual treason, may be screened from punishment of every kind, by the interposition of the prerogative of pardoning. If a governor of New York, therefore, should be at the head of any such conspiracy, until the design had been ripened into actual hostility he could insure his accomplices and adherents an entire impunity. A President of the Union, on the other hand, though he may even pardon treason, when prosecuted in the ordinary course of law, could shelter no offender, in any degree, from the effects of impeachment and conviction. Would not the prospect of a total indemnity for all the preliminary steps be a greater temptation to undertake and persevere in an enterprise against the public liberty, than the mere prospect of an exemption from death and confiscation, if the final execution of the design, upon an actual appeal to arms, should miscarry? Would this last expectation have any influence at all, when the probability was computed, that the person who was to afford that exemption might himself be involved in the consequences of the measure, and might be incapacitated by his agency in it from affording the desired impunity? The better to judge of this matter, it will be necessary to recollect, that, by the proposed Constitution, the offense of treason is limited "to levying war upon the United States, and adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort''; and that by the laws of New York it is confined within similar bounds.​

The Avalon Project : Federalist No 69

In a blog post for Brookings Institute, professor D. W. Buffa notes an exchange between George Mason and James Madison on the President's power to pardon. See: The pardon power and original intent

In the 1866 case of Ex Parte Garland, the Court heard a challenge to an 1862 law that required all federal public servants to take an oath affirming that they had never taken up arms against the US and had never given aid to persons or supported any government that had engaged in any sort of hostilities toward the US. An attorney, Mr. Garland, who had been previously admitted to practice in federal court abandoned his practice during the Civil War and was elected a Senator from Arkansas after the state's secession. At the close of the Civil War, Garland received a full pardon from President Johnson, and sought to resume his practice in federal court, but he obviously could not take the prescribed oath. He argued that the law was unconstitutional. The Court ruled in his favor, and, among its dicta, the Court noted that the Presidential pardon power “is unlimited” with the exception of cases of impeachment, that the power extends to every offense, and is intended to relieve the person who receives a full pardon of all punishments for all crimes he has committed or may be charged with committing. But, again, all of these comments were just dicta, not an element of the ratio decidendi, indeed, not relevant to the question the Court was answering.

The Court has never had the opportunity to determine whether or not a particular pardon by the President is constitutional. Yet, the Court generally treats actions by the President analogously to acts of Congress, and one can easily imagine how a pardon could be unconstitutional by infringing a fundamental right (e.g., by pardoning all white people convicted of murdering African Americans). Moreover, in attempt to determine the constitutionality of a governmental act, the Court routinely seeks to understand what is or was the purpose of a provision in the Constitution. To cite just a few examples from a single decision, First National Bank v. Bellotti:

As the Court said in Mills v. Alabama, 384 U. S. 214, 218 (1966), "there is practically universal agreement that a major purpose of [the First] Amendment was to protect the free discussion of governmental affairs."

"[T]he purpose of the Constitution was not to erect the press into a privileged institution but to protect all persons in their right to print what they will as well as to utter it. `. . . the liberty of the press is no greater and no less . . .' than the liberty of every citizen of the Republic." Pennekamp v. Florida, 328 U. S. 331, 364 (1946) (Frankfurter, J., concurring).

The First Amendment, in particular, serves significant societal interests. The proper question therefore is not whether corporations "have" First Amendment rights and, if so, whether they are coextensive with those of natural persons. Instead, the question must be whether § 8 abridges expression that the First Amendment was meant to protect.​

So my questions here are multiple and open-ended. What is the purpose of the President's pardon power? Is it to rescue a wrongly convicted person being punished for a crime? Is it to prevent the President's friends, allies or family members from being tried and/or punished for crimes regardless of their guilt?

Does the purpose include the power to pardon someone so that the person can commit a crime (e.g., theft) in the future with impunity?

Is there any reason why the Court should not entertain cases challenging the constitutionality of a pardon?

Is there any reason why the Court should not look beyond the four corners of the Constitution in order to discern the purpose of the President's power to grant pardons?
 

Brickjectivity

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Is there any reason why the Court should not look beyond the four corners of the Constitution in order to discern the purpose of the President's power to grant pardons?
Possibly by doing so the court seeks to limit the power of the president. If it finds a reason, then that limits the scope of the pardon allowable by the courts. They will be able to say "No that is not the reason for the president to pardon people, so this pardon is not allowed."

Maybe it is a military type of power that allows the commander in chief to terminate lives?
 

It Aint Necessarily So

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I see no legitimate purpose for presidential pardoning of people still living. It gives one person the arbitrary ability to throw out the results of the legal process that led to the pardoned conviction. Why should the president have that? Or perhaps we should give him or her the power to overturn the rulings of other courts, such as the US Supreme Court.
 

Revoltingest

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One possibility....
Our criminal justice system is always moribund & often corrupt or incompetent.
The President is (supposed to be) a wise & honest guy (& a gal some day).
So the power to quickly make corrections is useful.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
One possibility....
Our criminal justice system is always moribund & often corrupt or incompetent.
The President is (supposed to be) a wise & honest guy (& a gal some day).
So the power to quickly make corrections is useful.
That's the impression of this ignorant foreigner too.
Loved the "(& a gal some day)"...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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Loved the "(& a gal some day)"...
I'm very progressive, you know.
I'd be "liberal" too, but RF Management deemed that I cannot be.
And in their imperious wisdom, I also cannot be "feminist".
(Too much liberty in the mix with gender equality for them.)
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I'm very progressive, you know.
I'd be "liberal" too, but RF Management deemed that I cannot be.
And in their imperious wisdom, I also cannot be "feminist".
(Too much liberty in the mix with gender equality for them.)
Like, obviously a given President could abuse his Pardon Power (I didn't want to write "abusing his PP" -- for good reason)... but the idea is predicated on the idea that he/she/it would have the fine judgment to simply correct errors or over-reach... and was not originally a reward of a sorts like on the Gong Show...

For example, you know you have really screwed up if you are waiting on a Presidential pardon to begin with.
 

Revoltingest

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Like, obviously a given President could abuse his Pardon Power (I didn't want to write "abusing his PP" -- for good reason)... but the idea is predicated on the idea that he/she/it would have the fine judgment to simply correct errors or over-reach... and was not originally a reward of a sorts like on the Gong Show...

For example, you know you have really screwed up if you are waiting on a Presidential pardon to begin with.
Of course, the PP power can be abused, eg, Bill Clinton selling pardons.
It's possible that Trump will be more ethical in this regard.
That'll put some blue panties in a twist, eh!
 

Nakosis

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So my questions here are multiple and open-ended. What is the purpose of the President's pardon power? Is it to rescue a wrongly convicted person being punished for a crime? Is it to prevent the President's friends, allies or family members from being tried and/or punished for crimes regardless of their guilt?

Unfortunately any power given can be abused. As you pointed out this is a check on the criminal system. There are a number of checks on the president as well.

Does the purpose include the power to pardon someone so that the person can commit a crime (e.g., theft) in the future with impunity?

I wouldn't think so. Unless one can foretell the, why act on what is essentially unknown.

Is there any reason why the Court should not entertain cases challenging the constitutionality of a pardon?

Kind of defeats the purpose of such a check. This would basically be a check on the judicial system that it could nullify. So basically no check at all.

Is there any reason why the Court should not look beyond the four corners of the Constitution in order to discern the purpose of the President's power to grant pardons?

For the courts no, for congress, who holds the power to make changes to the law, even the constitution, yes.
 

GoodbyeDave

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Like many of the powers of the US president, it's directly inherited from the powers of the British monarch, which still exist. It was based on the royal duty to uphold justice, even if the system had failed.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

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The Court has never had the opportunity to determine whether or not a particular pardon by the President is constitutional. Yet, the Court generally treats actions by the President analogously to acts of Congress, and one can easily imagine how a pardon could be unconstitutional by infringing a fundamental right (e.g., by pardoning all white people convicted of murdering African Americans).
I'm not sure if this would apply in the US, but in Canada, we've had Supreme Court rulings that address this point: here, the ruling is that all parts of the Constitution are of equal status and no part of the Constitution can nullify another part.

In that case, the question was whether our rules for succession of the monarchy (which prohibit Catholics from becoming the monarch of Canada) violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms (which mandates equality of religion). The decision there was that because the rules of succession were on equal status to the Charter, they were not subject to the Charter.

I'm not sure to what extent American courts have ruled on whether one part of the US Constitution can nullify or limit another part.
 

Misunderstood

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I'm very progressive, you know.
I'd be "liberal" too, but RF Management deemed that I cannot be.
And in their imperious wisdom, I also cannot be "feminist".
(Too much liberty in the mix with gender equality for them.)
I would have to disagree, we have come a long way you know. All you have to do is identify as a female and wa la, you are female. You would then be able to do all the feminist things you want, like burning your bra. However, you might want to keep it on, saggy man boobs are not so pretty.
 

Misunderstood

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So my questions here are multiple and open-ended. What is the purpose of the President's pardon power? Is it to rescue a wrongly convicted person being punished for a crime?

Yes, I feel that is one of the reasons for Presidential Pardons.

Is it to prevent the President's friends, allies or family members from being tried and/or punished for crimes regardless of their guilt?

I do not feel it was meant to give Presidential friends and family a free pass. But, it does give the President that power. I feel it was meant to give the President power to protect himself by protecting those around him from certain branches of the government if they were to turn against him.

Does the purpose include the power to pardon someone so that the person can commit a crime (e.g., theft) in the future with impunity?

I don't think so, I think a pardon is only for a crime that a person has already been convicted of. Not a future crime. Is there something that would make you think it would cover any future crime?

Is there any reason why the Court should not entertain cases challenging the constitutionality of a pardon?

I feel the court is to hear any case that is valid and a challenge is made that the constitution was violated.

Is there any reason why the Court should not look beyond the four corners of the Constitution in order to discern the purpose of the President's power to grant pardons?

I also feel the court can use supporting documents to gain light in coming to a decision on a case.
 

Brickjectivity

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The Constitution itself merely provides the President with the power to issue pardons in cases of federal crimes (Art. II, Sec. 2, Cl. 1: “The President..."....

Is there any reason why the Court should not entertain cases challenging the constitutionality of a pardon?

Is there any reason why the Court should not look beyond the four corners of the Constitution in order to discern the purpose of the President's power to grant pardons?
Also I have been watching a Tony Robinson show about History. He commented that the first emperor of Rome was a proconsul who knew that when his period of control ended he would have to face a lot of legal trouble. This made him roll the dice and seek to be a permanent dictator. That got me to thinking that the purpose of the pardon in the USA may not be spelled out in the courts and left open ended so that a lame duck president will not feel pressed to roll the dice like that proconsul who became emperor. The president can pardon themselves and their cronies before leaving office. They can also make deals like Nixon did. They can be tyrannical with no legal repercussions after they leave office. After all the most important duty of a US president is that they leave office after their term is complete. So perhaps if the courts were to begin limiting the pardon they might also start creating reasons for presidents to seize power?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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I would have to disagree, we have come a long way you know. All you have to do is identify as a female and wa la, you are female. You would then be able to do all the feminist things you want, like burning your bra. However, you might want to keep it on, saggy man boobs are not so pretty.
RF is a more restricted environment than the real world.
Management decides which groups we are excluded from.
 

pearl

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The first thing Ford did after assuming office was to pardon Nixon. Clinton abused the power, don't remember either Bush issuing a number of pardons, Obama issued none, he commuted some sentences.
 

Nous

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Maybe it is a military type of power that allows the commander in chief to terminate lives?
Say what? How does that relate to the topic here? Are you saying that with an "unlimited" pardon power (as the Court commented in Garland ) it allows the President to "terminate lives"?
 

Nous

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I see no legitimate purpose for presidential pardoning of people still living. It gives one person the arbitrary ability to throw out the results of the legal process that led to the pardoned conviction. Why should the president have that? Or perhaps we should give him or her the power to overturn the rulings of other courts, such as the US Supreme Court.
Well, the presidential power of pardon is there unless and until the Constitution is amended to remove it.
 
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