What is the reasoning behind the hate?

[Toxikmynd]

I am referring to Sephardi Jews hating on Ashkenazi Jews, I've noticed lots claim that the Ashkenazi are not true Jews and that their children never will be either. I know that this doesn't concern all Sephardi Jews, but I've noticed a large majority, and why is this?

 

[Toxikmynd]

I always find the word Ashkenazi strange. Consider the H being silent.

That doesn't really answer the question though, wouldn't you become a Jew by converting and become one of G-d's chosen people?

 

[Toxikmynd]

Apparently the Jews are the chosen people of god, but a lot of Sephardi Jews believe only they are and that the Ashkenazi are not, many think they are impostors.

 

[Zardoz]

I am referring to Sephardi Jews hating on Ashkenazi Jews, I've noticed lots claim that the Ashkenazi are not true Jews and that their children never will be either. I know that this doesn't concern all Sephardi Jews, but I've noticed a large majority, and why is this?

I am Sephardi. Hating is too strong a term, and also your OP does not address that both groups are guilty of ... let's call it distrust. The root of the problem is culture. The two groups are from vastly different cultures and distant geographic locations. A long separation in time as well. That we have so much in common is the real wonder.

 

[Tumah]

I have never met a Sephardic or Ashkenazic Jew who thought such a thing about the other.
There is some tension because of cultural differences, but mostly only in Israel. And those cultural differences don't have anything to do with not believing the other is not a "real Jew." Personally, I am Ashkenaz and my brother in law is Sephardic. Maybe this is a more common thought among non-Orthodox?

 

[RabbiO]

I have never met a Sephardic or Ashkenazic Jew who thought such a thing about the other.
There is some tension because of cultural differences, but mostly only in Israel. And those cultural differences don't have anything to do with not believing the other is not a "real Jew." Personally, I am Ashkenaz and my brother in law is Sephardic. Maybe this is a more common thought among non-Orthodox?

Welcome back. It's been awhile.

 

[Eliab ben Benjamin]

I have never met a Sephardic or Ashkenazic Jew who thought such a thing about the other.

I have also never come across this argument or differention of Jewishness ...
our traditions may be a little different but i always perceived that as the culture of the
country we may have arrived and survived after the diaspora ...

I am a Hebrew, Sephardic and study the Essene literature

 

[Tumah]

Welcome back. It's been awhile.

Thanks, had a few minutes so I thought I'd respond to a couple posts.

More importantly: Where did my frubals go?

 

[Tarheeler]

Thanks, had a few minutes so I thought I'd respond to a couple posts.

More importantly: Where did my frubals go?

Now they're called "likes", and can be found on your profile page.

And I'll second the welcome back; it's good to see ya.

 

[Toxikmynd]

I've seen it mostly online, not ever in person, I see Sephardic Jews calling out Ashkenazi as being fakes on youtube and vise versa.

 

[Tumah]

I've seen it mostly online, not ever in person, I see Sephardic Jews calling out Ashkenazi as being fakes on youtube and vise versa.

Maybe they should spend more times learning the works of the great Sephardic Sages instead of making youtube videos. Ignorance very infrequently leads to intelligent comment. The famous Arizal and Chacham Tzvi were both of Ashkenazic descent and were leaders of Sephardic congregations.

 

[Toxikmynd]

Speaking of which, may I ask everyone's opinion on the Israeli "Right of Return" law? Is it a good or bad thing? Should it only apply to Sephardic Jews, or should both groups be able?

 

[Tumah]

Speaking of which, may I ask everyone's opinion on the Israeli "Right of Return" law? Is it a good or bad thing? Should it only apply to Sephardic Jews, or should both groups be able?

I don't hear any logical reason it should only apply to Sephardic Jews.
Are you aware that there are more than just two groups of Jews? There are Sephardic, Ashkenaz, Yemenite, Georgian, etc.

 

[Toxikmynd]

Ashkenazi seem to be the most mentioned when talking about the Right of Return law, for some reason most believe only Sephardic Jews are the chosen people and have a right to live in Israel. I think it's messed up personally, I believe that if you are a Jewish person you would become one of gods chosen people and have a claim to Israel being your home, regardless of origin. I'm not Jewish though and I'm basing this off of how I'd see it if I were Jewish and followed Jewish practices. (Have considered trying Jewish life, I might actually believe it as the belief in my current religion is fading )

 

[RabbiO]

....for some reason most believe only Sephardic Jews are the chosen people and have a right to live in Israel.

Who are these "most" who believe that only Sephardic Jews are "the chosen people." Are you using "chosen people" as a synonym for "Jews?"

 

[Toxikmynd]

Who are these "most" who believe that only Sephardic Jews are "the chosen people." Are you using "chosen people" as a synonym for "Jews?"

A lot of Sephardic Jews that I have met online, and it bothers me because if I were Jewish I would be proud that people are coming into my faith. Also I guess, I mean, I don't want to be sounding rude, which I probably am. I apologize if that's the case, I'm just trying to seek knowledge.

 

[Tumah]

I don't think most Sephardic Jews believe this. Maybe you just found one or two nutcases on youtube. I don't think its anything to be concerned with.

 

[Tarheeler]

I've not seen anything even close to what you're talking about, either in real life or on-line.

 

[Toxikmynd]

Truthfully it may just be my luck, (I have terrible luck) but I see them everywhere.

 

[dantech]

I have never met a Sephardic or Ashkenazic Jew who thought such a thing about the other.
There is some tension because of cultural differences, but mostly only in Israel. And those cultural differences don't have anything to do with not believing the other is not a "real Jew." Personally, I am Ashkenaz and my brother in law is Sephardic. Maybe this is a more common thought among non-Orthodox?

You're back! We missed you!


As for the OP, the main issue concerns mostly those that live in Israel, and it is becoming rarer and rarer.
The Ashkenazi Jews were the ones "running the show" after 1948 when the independence of Israel was declared. My parents, who moved from Morocco (sephardic) had a lot of trouble with the Ashkenazis because they were only giving them the jobs that you would give to uneducated people, which may have been justifiable because Ashkenazis were more educated than the Sephardis who came from less developed countries. The Sephardis were placed in the less developed neighbourhoods, and so on, and so on. It definitely did create tension, but there were no hate crimes or anything related to hate, to my knowledge.
Today however, it is becoming increasingly common for both groups to blend, especially in Israel.