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What is the relation between morality and spirituality?

arthra

Baha'i
What is the relation between morality and spirituality?

To me you cannot separate morality and spirituality... If the spiritual are not also moral they are stunted in their development.. If the moral lack spirituality they have no vision...

"Strive to attain nearness to reality through the acquisition of strength of character, through morality, through good works and helping the poor, through being consumed with the fire of the love of God and in discovering each day new spiritual mysteries. This is the path of intimate approach."

(Abdu'l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, p. 99)
 

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
What is the relation between morality and spirituality?

Peace be on you.
1-Human comes with raw state of faculties.
2-With exercise of regulation these become common morals.
3-When all weaknesses are cured and person get relation with God, it is Spiritual state.

Full in depth discussion by Ahmadiyya Muslim Promised Messiah Mahdi (on whom be peace) in his great book:
The Philosophy of the Teachings of Islam
""
1. The physical, moral and spiritual states of man.
2. What is the state of man after death, i.e. the hereafter?
3. What is the true purpose of man’s existence on earth and how can it be achieved?
4. What are the affects of one’s deeds in this life and the afterlife?
5. What are the sources of divine knowledge? ""

Source: https://www.alislam.org/library/books/Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I suspect the relationship between spirituality and morality is weak or insignificant, if at all existent. At least, in the sense of one determining the other.
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
A spiritual path can be a means to examine our morality in more detail, maybe challenge existing behaviour patterns. Apart from that I don't see a direct relationship.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
Morality is a human construct; a rule or principle we mentally abide by. Someone striving for spiritual growth will develop and use morals as guidance. But a truly Spiritual person, 'enlightened' or Realised, has no need for morals. They are beyond it.
 

Erock13

Member
You don't need spirituality or religion to form moral principles, nor do you need them to provide a reason to abide by those principles, so I'd say there doesn't have to be a relationship at all. And while a "spiritual journey," whatever that means exactly, can be helpful to a person, there is a strong tendency in religious thought in general to inject "moral" rules that cannot be demonstrated (cannot shown to be harmful, for instance), essentially meaning that the essence of those particular moral principles seems to be quite arbitrary, and possibly harmful.
 

Gambit

Well-Known Member
I suspect the relationship between spirituality and morality is weak or insignificant, if at all existent. At least, in the sense of one determining the other.

Really? You believe there is very little relationship between happiness and morality?
 

Erock13

Member
Really? You believe there is very little relationship between happiness and morality?

Sunstone actually said "spirituality and morality," not "happiness and morality." Unless you meant to imply that one can't be happy and not be spiritual, but that's false, too.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
I image we are all going to answer along the usual party lines here...

Morality is independent of spirituality. To claim otherwise is to be ignorant of human behavior.
 

Gambit

Well-Known Member
I image we are all going to answer along the usual party lines here...

Morality is independent of spirituality. To claim otherwise is to be ignorant of human behavior.

So, you believe that morality has no bearing whatsoever on an individual's state of happiness?
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
Who said anything about happiness?

But to answer your question, no; not particularly. Sociopaths, for example, can be completely happy while being immoral.
And aren't there varying levels of morality? I'm a happy person, regardless of whether or not you find me to be a moral person.
 

Gambit

Well-Known Member
Sunstone actually said "spirituality and morality," not "happiness and morality." Unless you meant to imply that one can't be happy and not be spiritual, but that's false, too.

The goal of spirituality is to achieve a state of genuine happiness (eudaimonia).
 
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Gambit

Well-Known Member
I think you'd be better off using the word itself and not questioning others based on your own definition:

Spirituality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm citing the same source below that you are above.

Secular spirituality emphasizes humanistic ideas on moral character (qualities such as love, compassion, patience, tolerance, forgiveness, contentment, responsibility, harmony, and a concern for others).[95]:22

(source: Wikipedia: Spirituality)

Contemporary authors suggest that spirituality develops inner peace and forms a foundation for happiness.

(source: Wikipedia: Spirituality)
 
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