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What is the star of Remphan? [more than guessing

sooda

sooda

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Must have something to do with child sacrifice.

"Rephan," and this name is adopted by Luke in his narrative of the Acts. These names represent the star-god Saturn or Moloch.
 
Brickjectivity

Brickjectivity

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Desert Snake said:
Book of acts, it says 'take your star of your deity Remphan',

So, how would you interpret that verse?
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Its going to require some explanation and background. Here is the verse you quote:

"You have taken up the tabernacle of Molek and the star of your god Rephan, the idols you made to worship. Therefore I will send you into exile' beyond Babylon." (Act 7:43 NIV)

Clearly they aren't actually entering a tabernacle or speaking the name Moloch or bowing to a star or to a graven image, so he is not speaking of this literally. That leaves room to ask what are they doing wrong, and what do their actions have to do with Moloch or this 'Rephan'? How can they be sent to Babylon when its a non player at the time this is written? Moloch has 2 main problems: sacrifice of children, and he is a god of war. I suggest Moloch and the star here represents the belief that war is the foundation of peace. The accusation here in Acts 7:43 is that these people have chosen to fight with physical weapons instead of contemplative ones and have chosen non peaceful means. He may be exaggerating and may be speaking of something other than physical violence, such as perhaps some other nonpeaceful means. Perhaps it means they are exclusive and cutting people off. Perhaps it means they are opposing Rome politically. Whatever he thinks their violence is -- he says their worship is transformed into service to Moloch and implies that the Torah will be withheld from them for a time.

He alludes to things like this verse segment:
" 'Prepare chains! For the land is full of bloodshed, and the city is full of violence. I will bring the most wicked of nations to take possession of their houses. I will put an end to the pride of the mighty, and their sanctuaries will be desecrated. When terror comes, they will seek peace in vain..." (Eze 7:23-25 NIV)

...and also to songs about being chained in darkness, which is how the exile is described. Its not just being chained but being chained into the darkness of ignorance, separated from the Torah and its practice:
"...Some sat in darkness, in utter darkness, prisoners suffering in iron chains,..." (Psa 107:10 NIV)
"...He brought them out of darkness, the utter darkness, and broke away their chains..." (Psa 107:14 NIV)

This is the foundation of some stylistic language in the gospels and in Jude: Jude describes these people as fallen angels: "And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day." (Jde 1:6 NIV)

Jesus in the gospels uses this kind of language, too, referring to them as gods, and this is an important idea to understand what is happening when someone is bound with chains of darkness, which are ignorance. It implies they lose their divinity.

Here is the basis for what is in Acts 7:43 The idea of a god is one of a being with moral capacity, someone who knows good from evil; but if they ignore their ability and turn to violence then that ability is taken away from them. They can no longer determine good from bad.
 
Yokefellow

Yokefellow

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Stars can represent Angels...

Revelation 1:20
"The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches"

Stars can also represent children...

Genesis 37:9
"And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me"

If we assume Remphan is Saturn, then the 'Star of Remphan' is it's child as well as a Fallen Angel.

If we study to see what children Saturn had, we can narrow down who the Star is.

The Saitic Isis claims to be the 'eldest daughter of Saturn'...

Saitic-Isis2.jpg


Note that the Star of Remphan is linked to the Golden Calf just a few verses prior...

Acts 7:41
"And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands"

This leads me to conclude that Moloch and the Golden Calf are variations of the same theme.

Hathor...

mhp-0551.jpg


Hathor is the Mother Goddess...

HAT = HOUSE/WOMB
HOR = HORUS

I would also look at Vesta as being a child of Saturn...


Vesta is the Eternal Fire linked to the Lake of Fire and the Valley of the Son of Hinnom...

mhp-0847.png


Yes, where Moloch worship was.

Those thrown into the Lake of Fire go through the Fire of Vesta and the Flaming Fascinus to Moloch, which again ties to Hathor and Isis.

Bottom line, we are talking about reincarnation here.

Translation?

The Star of Remphan is a Fallen Angel that the occult wishes to become reincarnated and manifested on Earth one day.
 
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Desert Snake

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Solomons Temple, Mark 11:11, wouldn't be considered bad. Mark 11:11, there isn't that inference. Mark 11:17
 
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sooda

sooda

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Brickjectivity said:
Its going to require some explanation and background. Here is the verse you quote:

"You have taken up the tabernacle of Molek and the star of your god Rephan, the idols you made to worship. Therefore I will send you into exile' beyond Babylon." (Act 7:43 NIV)

Clearly they aren't actually entering a tabernacle or speaking the name Moloch or bowing to a star or to a graven image, so he is not speaking of this literally. That leaves room to ask what are they doing wrong, and what do their actions have to do with Moloch or this 'Rephan'? How can they be sent to Babylon when its a non player at the time this is written? Moloch has 2 main problems: sacrifice of children, and he is a god of war. I suggest Moloch and the star here represents the belief that war is the foundation of peace. The accusation here in Acts 7:43 is that these people have chosen to fight with physical weapons instead of contemplative ones and have chosen non peaceful means. He may be exaggerating and may be speaking of something other than physical violence, such as perhaps some other nonpeaceful means. Perhaps it means they are exclusive and cutting people off. Perhaps it means they are opposing Rome politically. Whatever he thinks their violence is -- he says their worship is transformed into service to Moloch and implies that the Torah will be withheld from them for a time.

He alludes to things like this verse segment:
" 'Prepare chains! For the land is full of bloodshed, and the city is full of violence. I will bring the most wicked of nations to take possession of their houses. I will put an end to the pride of the mighty, and their sanctuaries will be desecrated. When terror comes, they will seek peace in vain..." (Eze 7:23-25 NIV)

...and also to songs about being chained in darkness, which is how the exile is described. Its not just being chained but being chained into the darkness of ignorance, separated from the Torah and its practice:
"...Some sat in darkness, in utter darkness, prisoners suffering in iron chains,..." (Psa 107:10 NIV)
"...He brought them out of darkness, the utter darkness, and broke away their chains..." (Psa 107:14 NIV)

This is the foundation of some stylistic language in the gospels and in Jude: Jude describes these people as fallen angels: "And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day." (Jde 1:6 NIV)

Jesus in the gospels uses this kind of language, too, referring to them as gods, and this is an important idea to understand what is happening when someone is bound with chains of darkness, which are ignorance. It implies they lose their divinity.

Here is the basis for what is in Acts 7:43 The idea of a god is one of a being with moral capacity, someone who knows good from evil; but if they ignore their ability and turn to violence then that ability is taken away from them. They can no longer determine good from bad.
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Desert Snake

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sooda said:
Moloch, Chiun and Remphan are all names for the star god, Saturn, whose symbol is a six pointed star formed by two triangles.

Saturn was the supreme god of the Chaldeans.
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Commonly called 'hexagram', isn't associated with "Remphan", in my religious beliefs.
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So, why is it being associated with Remphan, in the book of Acts?
 
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Desert Snake

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Acts of the Apostles 7
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Things that need an explanation

• why is the Temple of Solomon inferred as something bad, when
Mark 11:11
[Jesus vists the Temple of Solomon,
Mark 11:17
[Jesus isn't against the Temple of Solomon, He is against bad priests , so forth

• the commonly called 'hexagram', isn't associated with Remphan, yet might be, in the book of Acts,
 
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